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> Definitions of Republican vs. Democrat, Without using Conservative/Liberal
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post May 15 2003, 07:17 PM
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I would like to know what makes a Republican or a Democrat without using the conservative/Liberal explainations.
There used to be Liberal Republicans and conservative Democrats, so what speperates the two parties besides that?
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post May 16 2003, 06:04 AM
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Besides ideology? Nothing at all but habit. Other than for reasons of ideology, people are Republicans or Democrats because their family, peer group, region, etc. are using to being associated with that party.

Ideology is really the significant difference. Habit isn't much of a reason to choose a party.
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post May 16 2003, 06:38 AM
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Good question. In the interest of keeping it simple and not writing a book, I'd sum it up by saying that Democrats tend to look to the government for the solution to the problem. Republicans tend to look to the government as the source of the problem.
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I think the major thing that seperates the two main parties, are the views on the major issues.

Dems and repubs disagree on enviornment issues
disagree on welfare issues
WOT

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Democrats like Cigars, While republicans dont!!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post May 16 2003, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(fisherman51 @ May 16 2003, 04:57 PM)
Democrats like Cigars, While republicans dont!!!! laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

I think Rush Limbaugh blows your theory, fisherman wink2.gif

Got another?
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Democrats: Votes for the underdog no matter what. Would feel sorry for the "poor orphan" that killed his parents.

Republicans: Would take tyranny as long as a republican is in power. When they disagree, they tend to eat their own.
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post May 19 2003, 07:27 PM
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Democrats will tell you what you want to hear to make you feel good about yourself before ripping you off. Republicans will tell you exactly how they're going to rip you off, proceed to rip you off, then tell you its your own fault before pushing you in front of a bus.
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Republicans have the majority of hispanic & upper class (CEO's mostly) vote

Democrats have women (speciafically the soccor mom type), african-americans & those who love more taxes
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I hate to be a party pooper, but this thread sounds like it ought to be in "casual conversation." Either that or people ought to address the actual topic instead of resorting to silly/stupid blanket statements. They are mostly funny, and clever, but this is devolving rapidly from any sort of political debate. I would have no objection to the thread being moved to CC, perhaps O'Neill could tell us if he was looking for coffee or just froth?
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Quarkhead is quite right.......witty(?) statements such as the above are not lending to the intent of O'Neill's original question.....
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I would like to know what makes a Republican or a Democrat without using the conservative/Liberal explainations.
There used to be Liberal Republicans and conservative Democrats, so what speperates the two parties besides that?

Please be substantiative with your posts flowers.gif
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The main difference between a democrat and a republican is the way that they interpret the constitution. Most Republicans interpret it as word for word, and follow the precedents set forth by the courts over the past two hundred years. Democrats, on the other hand, interpret the constitution more generally, and don't follow suit as clearly on landmark cases as do the Republicans, they usually believe that times have changed, therefore the circumstances of the cases of changed. The basic concept of party affiliations is ideology, this is what makes a Republican a Republican or a Democrat a Democrat, but how they get these ideology depends mainly upon the way they interpret the constitution and the judicial and political history of our country.
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post Sep 19 2003, 01:20 PM
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The easiest way to tell the difference between Repub and Demo is to look at party platforms.

Repub: Pro-life
Demo: Pro-choice

Repub: Pro-business
Demo: Pro-worker

Repub: Pro-military
Demo: Pro-social

Repub: Pro-privitization
Demo: Pro-government program

Repub: Pro-self determinization
Demo: Pro-helping hand

Repub: Pro-deregulation
Demo: Pro-regulation

Repub: Pro-development
Demo: Pro-open space

This list could get very long, so I'll stop here.

These issues have bled one way or the other in the hopes of finding the sweet middle ground of majority votes. However, the middle ground is also soft ground. I think this will be shown to us again this coming election season.

When you make your choices in the voting place, keep in mind the party platforms--not just the one-liner jokes, the personalities, and the brainless media ads.
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post Sep 21 2003, 02:27 AM
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The easiest way I know how to explain it is.

The Republicans want the government to control most aspects of peoples personal lives, but they think the government should have a small role in controling the economy. The Democrats on the other hand advocate a large degree of personal freedom, but they think the government should control more of the economy.
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Republicans believe in taxing the people heavily, and then handing that money over to favored corporations.
Democrats believe in taxing the people heavily, and using the money for social programs.
Libertarians believe in letting people keep their money.
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post Sep 24 2003, 02:53 AM
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The Republicans want the government to control most aspects of peoples personal lives, but they think the government should have a small role in controling the economy. The Democrats on the other hand advocate a large degree of personal freedom, but they think the government should control more of the economy.


I would have to vehemently disagree with this--although in the case of the Christian right I can certainly see where the first part comes from. Which brings up another question--are we trying to determine what differentiates the parties (sometimes not very much, especially since both are so busy bashing the other that they've frequently forgotten what the heck is was that they were actually for at one time), or to differentiate the conservative vs. liberal philosophies. Case in point: will much of the right wing of the Republican party might espouse things that lead to the thinking above, I would stipulate that in fact conservatism by its very nature must be against governmental control of personal lives, whereas the liberal philosophy, striving to achieve greater good, would actually in most cases (abortion rights being one huge exception) espouse practices removing personal freedom.

That aside, I had some long debates while attending college with a liberal friend of mine on political issues. The compromise we eventually agreed upon (after she did in fact admit that she was really a closet conservative!) was this: Democrats come up with good things to do, Republicans figure out to actually fpay for it all.
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Growing up in and around republican politics, and abandoning them for certain reasons, I feel I have a pretty good handle on the vs thing.

I am sorry for those non-religious repubs, but the religious right OWNS your party, lock, stock and barrel. I have yet to have ever attended a republican caucus in my life that did not believe in peeking in poeples bedrooms and regulating what poeple injest etc- they are truly the party that doesn't tolerate any sinners LOL But the paleo republicans are very strong on real law and order issues (rape and murder, not just the victimless stuff) and economic issues (I am not discussing the neo-cons here, they are just plain loony as the PETA poeple IMO)

The democrats have become the magnet for the oddball hippy IMO- if the Dems were ever able to ditch the PETA poeple and other fringe groups, many that really do want some kind of utopian socialism, and concentrated on enlarging the middle class with former poor people, there would be no republican party in a generation IMO.

So the average moderate with a couple radical thoughts just choose from the lesser of two evils.
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Republicans believe in taxing the people heavily, and then handing that money over to favored corporations.
Democrats believe in taxing the people heavily, and using the money for social programs.
Libertarians believe in letting people keep their money.


Actually, as it stands since 1980, the GOP wants to cut taxes but spend money, so we have to admit that Republican theory and action are opposed.

And since 1990, the Demos have cooperated with eliminating a large portion of certain social services.

As far as Libertarians, I haven't seen much action to compare to theory regarding economic policies. I think there has been some, though. New Mexico had a Libertarian governor, but he got bumped in 2002 by Bill Richardson, a Demo. I remember a lot of grumbling about doing nothing but vetos, and I suppose that tactic (just doing nothing) falls in line with Libertarian thought about limiting government.

But I drift off subject with a third party.

So back to Repub vs Demo. There seems to be more hawkish Repubs than Demos, and Repubs seem more likely to accept war as a quick fix to complex international situations. Demos tend to prefer war as a last resort.

I also think most Repubs are more loyal to party ideals and personalities than Demos. This could be changing.
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hmmm.gif
do u guys agree:
Dem and republicans have similar ideology..because they both served the interest of a same group of interest???
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QUOTE(zhengy125 @ Sep 25 2003, 06:43 AM)
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do u guys agree:
Dem and republicans have similar ideology..because they both served the interest of a same group of interest???

Well, kinda to your first clause and no to your second. Despite what alot of third parties say, the majority of the Dems in office and the majority of the Repubs will find plenty to disagree about in pretty much any measure. There's definite ideological differences that intermix with dependance on different special interest and constituencies. Yes, generally big bussinesses give to both parties, but as an example, I think phamacuiticals gave to Republicans 3:1 versus the Dems in 2002, in the above board, straightforward donations. The overlap is partially about maintaining access to officerholders.
However, while Dems and Repubs disagree on the specifics, the political spectrum in the U.S. is constrained. For those not on the far wings of either party, there's a general consensus about what's rediculous or not, whether or not the rest of the world agrees. So relatively narrow spectrum, but the differences that are often alleged as insignificant mean alot to millions of citizens, both in terms of their views and what might happen as a result.
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