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America's Debate _ Casual Conversation _ "A Day Without a Woman"

Posted by: akaCG Mar 9 2017, 02:40 AM

Today was https://www.yahoo.com/news/that-energy-is-still-here-new-yorkers-rally-for-day-without-a-woman-strike-225335403.html Day.

Please share the way(s) in which it has affected you.


Posted by: AuthorMusician Mar 10 2017, 07:37 AM

No effect because I live with "a woman," and actually two of them.

It'd take a week before the stuff hit the fan for me. I'm sure that others out there felt the loss more quickly and directly, for example k-12 students and their families. Or people depending on female nurses to make it through the day/night.

But I did okay. Had the women in my life mysteriously disappeared for a day, probably would have worried myself sick. So I'm glad that didn't happen.

The point of the exercise was to make people appreciate all that women do day in and day out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysistrata anyone?

Posted by: net2007 Mar 10 2017, 06:08 PM

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Today was "A Day Without a Woman" Day.

Please share the way(s) in which it has affected you.


It hasn't.

I talked to my girlfriend about it to see what she thought but she holds similar viewpoints to me.

Women are infinitely important but what is this movement all about? Is it to say to men "what would you do without us for a day", or something more? My gut tells that this is a fringe left-wing movement, very politically charged, very anti-Trump, and anti-conservative. How many conservative women are in this group, and are their opinions considered important?

I think I have more questions than reactions to this one.

Posted by: AuthorMusician Mar 10 2017, 09:50 PM

This might help to answer some questions:

http://www.nwhp.org/womens-history-month/womens-history-month-history/

March is Women's History Month.

A few things someone with questions might google:

Suffragettes

Glass ceiling

Wage disparity by sex

ERA (Equal Rights Amendment)

Human trafficking

Legal wife beating

Revenge porn

It's always mystified me how people can be against their own interests, but it obviously happens all the time. That's my big question -- how can women be against their own rights? Well, in this context. Men do it too.

I suppose for some it's based in fear, while others might be looking to lick boots for getting ahead. But in all, it strikes me as fundamentally wrong-headed, and I don't know what's really going on. It could be like how some people dislike all musical forms -- seems wrong to me but right to them, and that, as they say, is that. We work differently at a very deep level.

Posted by: net2007 Mar 11 2017, 06:58 PM

QUOTE(AuthorMusician @ Mar 10 2017, 04:50 PM) *
This might help to answer some questions:

http://www.nwhp.org/womens-history-month/womens-history-month-history/

March is Women's History Month.

A few things someone with questions might google:

Suffragettes

Glass ceiling

Wage disparity by sex

ERA (Equal Rights Amendment)

Human trafficking

Legal wife beating

Revenge porn

It's always mystified me how people can be against their own interests, but it obviously happens all the time. That's my big question -- how can women be against their own rights? Well, in this context. Men do it too.

I suppose for some it's based in fear, while others might be looking to lick boots for getting ahead. But in all, it strikes me as fundamentally wrong-headed, and I don't know what's really going on. It could be like how some people dislike all musical forms -- seems wrong to me but right to them, and that, as they say, is that. We work differently at a very deep level.


I think most women would be against those things, but there are a few underlining points here. I'm not sure what you think about this but if you take something like the glass ceiling, I think most women would be happy if it's broken. However, I'd bet fewer women would think it's a good idea to vote for someone just because they're a woman, although it happens. From what I've seen, some feminists have an obtuse view of what women should be doing. Women should be considered diverse in my opinion but I've heard some suggest that if you're a woman and you vote for Trump you're doing a disservice to women everywhere. That kind of thinking disregards the beliefs of women who think abortion is wrong, or that Hillary Clinton was too corrupt to be the right person to break that glass ceiling. So I come back to asking if this is a liberal or progressive movement or a movement for women?

The idea behind "A Day Without a Woman" is also a bit peculiar to me. I suppose that could send a message that "we're important and what would you do without us"? But perhaps it'd make more of a statement if they show their strength by going to work and reminding us that they can do their job as well as a man. Either way, I think most people already understand women are very capable and offer a lot to the workplace. Giving birth is also a good indicator of strength, I wouldn't do that. I've helped raise a child and I'm open to being a father, that kind of thing is rewarding but as far as giving birth if I could, hell no. I've suggested before that a baby in the womb is more or less a parasite on a mission to steal vitamins and nutrients. The response I got to that was quite interesting tongue.gif

Posted by: Mrs. Pigpen Mar 11 2017, 09:00 PM

QUOTE(AuthorMusician @ Mar 10 2017, 05:50 PM) *
This might help to answer some questions:

http://www.nwhp.org/womens-history-month/womens-history-month-history/

March is Women's History Month.

A few things someone with questions might google:

Suffragettes

Glass ceiling

Wage disparity by sex

ERA (Equal Rights Amendment)

Human trafficking

Legal wife beating

Revenge porn

It's always mystified me how people can be against their own interests, but it obviously happens all the time. That's my big question -- how can women be against their own rights? Well, in this context. Men do it too.


When someone chooses an action that goes against his or her interest, it's typically for short term gratification. For example, If I eat a box a donuts I do so because they immediately taste good even though I know the health and waistline implications are bad longterm. Same with going into credit card debt. I like to buy things, and I have the immediate gratification so who cares if I have to declare bankruptcy later? I might not live that long...and so forth. This is very often evident in budget and security issues too. I'm not sure how it fits here though.
What women are against their own interests and why do you think so?
I don't know anyone who believes that women should be beaten or human trafficking permitted.
What do you believe to be in a person's interest, exactly? Is it in one's interest to be happy? That seems a no brainer the answer would be yes.
If so, well...women in the 1970s were overall happier than men and now http://ftp.iza.org/dp4200.pdf.

So the changes made don't seem to have been (taken as a whole) in the longterm interest of women's overall happiness.

Posted by: Looms Mar 12 2017, 01:31 AM

QUOTE(AuthorMusician @ Mar 10 2017, 04:50 PM) *
This might help to answer some questions:

http://www.nwhp.org/womens-history-month/womens-history-month-history/

March is Women's History Month.


Well...isn't that special. An entire month dedicated to what one has between their legs. How can I POSSIBLY not take it seriously?

QUOTE(AuthorMusician @ Mar 10 2017, 04:50 PM) *
A few things someone with questions might google:


Did you google them prior to posting? I have my doubts.

QUOTE(AuthorMusician @ Mar 10 2017, 04:50 PM) *
Suffragettes


A domestic terrorist group. How nice! Or do you mean the suffragists, which are NOT the same thing?

QUOTE(AuthorMusician @ Mar 10 2017, 04:50 PM) *
Glass ceiling

Wage disparity by sex


These two are more or less part of the same non-issue. Do you understand the difference between wages and earnings? If yes, then you're being intentionally dishonest. If not, you should have googled harder.

QUOTE(AuthorMusician @ Mar 10 2017, 04:50 PM) *
ERA (Equal Rights Amendment)

What about it? Are you saying women do not already have equal protection under the law? Can you google me some evidence of this absurd claim?

QUOTE(AuthorMusician @ Mar 10 2017, 04:50 PM) *
Human trafficking


Not exclusively a women's issue, as you well know, since you referred to it as HUMAN trafficking. Google harder.

QUOTE(AuthorMusician @ Mar 10 2017, 04:50 PM) *
Legal wife beating


Where in the West do laws like this exist? Source?

QUOTE(AuthorMusician @ Mar 10 2017, 04:50 PM) *
Revenge porn


Really? This is an issue that needs an international...anything?

QUOTE(AuthorMusician @ Mar 10 2017, 04:50 PM) *
It's always mystified me how people can be against their own interests, but it obviously happens all the time. That's my big question -- how can women be against their own rights? Well, in this context. Men do it too.


I think the problem is that women simply don't know what their best interests are. Thankfully, they have their P-hat and diaper pin wearing clergy to guide them.

QUOTE(AuthorMusician @ Mar 10 2017, 04:50 PM) *
I don't know what's really going on.


That much we can agree on.

Posted by: akaCG Mar 13 2017, 03:08 AM

QUOTE(Looms @ Mar 11 2017, 09:31 PM) *
QUOTE(AuthorMusician @ Mar 10 2017, 04:50 PM) *
This might help to answer some questions:

http://www.nwhp.org/womens-history-month/womens-history-month-history/

March is Women's History Month.


Well...isn't that special. An entire month dedicated to what one has between their legs. ...
...

Well, to be fair, it hasn't been the entire month that has been dedicated thereto. 'Far as I can tell (so far), only ONE day or so within it has ended up being "dedicated" to the "A Day Without a Woman" event/non-event that involved such feminist "luminaries" as ... Cate Blanchett ... sharing with us such puerile "insights" as that her "moral compass" is contained within her ... vagina.

"I don't believe that!!!", you say? Well, m'friend, behold:

http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/03/cate-blanchett-moral-compass-in-vagina


QUOTE(Looms @ Mar 11 2017, 09:31 PM) *
...
... How can I POSSIBLY not take it seriously? ...
...

Indeed.


Posted by: lo rez Mar 14 2017, 05:08 PM

You'd think that on the 'day without a woman' I'd be allowed to eat frosted flakes for dinner and enjoy a cold brew in the shower but nope, not enough of a 'without a woman' day apparently.

Posted by: AuthorMusician Mar 15 2017, 04:57 PM

QUOTE(lo rez @ Mar 14 2017, 01:08 PM) *
You'd think that on the 'day without a woman' I'd be allowed to eat frosted flakes for dinner and enjoy a cold brew in the shower but nope, not enough of a 'without a woman' day apparently.

Maybe next year it'll be A Day Without Your Surrogate Mom. mrsparkle.gif

Way too much SM in this world.

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