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> China -- friend or foe?, Kill the Commies?
j10pilot
post Nov 21 2005, 08:41 PM
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About once a month, I enter a state of trance where I just think about really, really serious stuff. What I thought about for the past couple of days is the thorny issues between the United States and China. The more I think about it, the more I realize that some of the issues cannot be solved by simply tossing out the words "freedom" and "democracy."

So here are the questions for discussion:


1. Is China an enemy of the United States?

2. Is the future of the relationship between China and the U.S. determined solely by the actions of China?

3. If China becomes a democracy, would the situation be any different?
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post Feb 28 2006, 04:26 AM
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And so presents the conundrum that is China...

1. Is China an enemy of the United States?

China has re-invested its surplus American dollars (a result of their substantial trade surplus) in U.S. Treasury Bonds, thereby partially financing the massive budgetary shortfall. On the other hand, the U.S. is the main destination for Chinese goods, providing an essential source for Chinese growth. Therefore, this is a relationship of healthy interdependance outside of military-strategic objectives, which are at significant odds.

2. Is the future of the relationship between China and the U.S. determined solely by the actions of China?

Both. Relationships are binary creatures, whereby both parties affect the health of that relationship.

3. If China becomes a democracy, would the situation be any different?

Democracy no affect on the relationship. The U.S. has no problem in dealing with various non-democratic countries when its interests are served that way..
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post Mar 10 2006, 05:43 PM
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Whoa, my baby is still alive and well.

Enlightening replies, fellows, the good thing about debates is that there really is no right or wrong, what matters is what YOU perceive to be right or wrong. Keep up the good work.
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post Mar 10 2006, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(j10pilot @ Mar 10 2006, 12:43 PM)
Whoa, my baby is still alive and well.

Enlightening replies, fellows, the good thing about debates is that there really is no right or wrong, what matters is what YOU perceive to be right or wrong. Keep up the good work.
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1. Is China an enemy of the United States?

2. Is the future of the relationship between China and the U.S. determined solely by the actions of China?

3. If China becomes a democracy, would the situation be any different?
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post Mar 19 2006, 01:23 AM
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1. Is China an enemy of the United States?

I don't think China should be an enemy to the United States in any way shape or form. Yes, they are a competitor but that doesnt necessarily mean they are an enemy. With the reemergence of globalization in the past couple years, we have learned that the global market brings free market nations closer. Whats good for China is whats good for the United States. The more trade and more relations we have between our nations, the better off we will be.

2. Is the future of the relationship between China and the U.S. determined solely by the actions of China?


No not at all. It takes two to tango as they say and the US has an important role. We have to encourage investment by US firms in China and Chinese firms in the US. The more markets we create, the more growth we will have and the better prices we will have for consumers.

3. If China becomes a democracy, would the situation be any different?

I think the situation would be different but it really shouldnt affect it. China is an economic powerhouse because it has adopted the free market and hopefully civil rights will follow the economic freedoms they have given. Eventually as the quality of life improves for the people of China, technology will make it impossible for China to shut off its populace.

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Can I say something as a chinese?


1. Is China an enemy of the United States?

No,of couse. At least we chinese common ppl don't want to be. Though sometimes the U.S. seems aggressive to us, it still is the most powerful country in the world and the successful example of China. In fact ppl here don't want to be enemy of any country(except Japan in some younger's views, maybe). We just want to have a peace life and earn enough money to make our family live better.


2. Is the future of the relationship between China and the U.S. determined solely by the actions of China?

No. The reationship depends on both. And most of us wish it will be better in the future.



3. If China becomes a democracy, would the situation be any different?

It's really hard to say. And many ppl are disputing for it here in China. It seems that democracy can bring us a more incorrupt government (we hate the corrupt communist bureaucracy so much!), but Mongolia or the nations in South America are democracy and all are not good examples of China. Meanwhile, most chinese are peasants who are not well educated and easy to be instigated. If they have the right to vote, a radical nationalist may be voted to be the president and China will be more aggressive to other countries. That won't be good for both China and the U.S. . The democracy won't bring advantages for the ralationship until most of chinese can become bourgeois(well, it's just a dream of chinese, won't be the reality in short days).
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