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> The November Elections, Will Democrats hold their Majorities?
Ted
post Sep 13 2010, 03:50 PM
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Some expect the Democrats to hold onto the House and Senate in November….

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By Anna Palmer, CQ-Roll Call Anna Palmer, Cq-roll Call – Sun Sep 12, 12:28 pm ET
House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.) predicted Sunday that Democrats will retain a majority in the House after the November elections.
"We're going to hold the House," he said on CNN's "State of the Union."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/cq/20100912/pl_cq_...ics000003730725


Others are not so sure.

Questions for the Debate:

Will the Democrats hold onto majorities in the House and Senate?

Will the losses in the House surpass 1994? Why or Why not.

Obama is on the stump bashing Republicans as Clinton did in ’94. Is this a good strategy to build support for Democrats in November? Why or why not.

What issues will drive the electorate for each Party in November?


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post Sep 13 2010, 05:21 PM
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Will the Democrats hold onto majorities in the House and Senate?

My feeling for this all along has been that they will. The election of 2008 marked a major change in this country: a swing away from the far right and a strong desire to fix things (two wars and a trashed economy primarily, lots of smaller issues).

Dems might even get super-duper majorities to break the filibuster. It's not part of the usual midterm outcome, but this is an unusual midterm.

Will the losses in the House surpass 1994? Why or Why not.

No, for the reasons given.

Obama is on the stump bashing Republicans as Clinton did in ’94. Is this a good strategy to build support for Democrats in November? Why or why not.

The way I see it, he's just telling it like it is. That's really all that needs to be done to swing votes to the Democrats -- simply remind people about what's been going on for nearly two years.

What issues will drive the electorate for each Party in November?

Local issues will trump national for the Democrats with one big wrinkle. The local issues this time around involve federal aid to the states in the form of the stimulus efforts, unemployment comp extensions and support of Medicare/SS.

The Republicans will have an excited base and will pick up some tea bag types, but not enough to win. Might be enough to balance out the losses in the base. There's no credible Contract for America this time around. Party leadership is very weak and even a tad bit crazy (Palin/Beck). The tea party is starting to sound like an MLM pitch -- go get yer friends to sign up (figuratively).

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How have the Republicans alienated the electorate, let me count the ways:

Treated Hispanics as if all were illegal aliens

Proposed that victims of rape carry any resulting children to term (that would be the women's vote)

Called the unemployed lazy drug addicted bums

Shed crocodile tears for the plight of BP

Voted NO on the stimulus and then took credit for it (tried anyway)

Voted NO on health care reform, thus killing the public option

Complained about the corporate bailouts after having supported them

Misrepresented President Obama as a socialist (that's the mild part)

Encouraged disruptive behavior at public meetings

Called for the return of Bush-era ham-handed foreign relations

Brought us a SCOTUS that thinks corporations are citizens

Partied hardy in Hawaii and erotic clubs

Went to the Appalachian Trail during Hike Naked Week (!)

Still not accepting the gay

Attempted trashing of Megan McCain

Used Rachel Maddow as a fund-raising scare tactic

Finally killed ACORN on the basis of fake vids

Made an unknown Alaskan into a parody of a rock star as a fund-raising strategy

Promoted the fear of Islam against the principles of former President GW Bush

Ticked off Lady Gaga (final nail in coffin, there goes the youth vote)
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post Sep 13 2010, 10:10 PM
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Will the Democrats hold onto majorities in the House and Senate?

I think there is a better chance of it than the television pundits seem to think.

Will the losses in the House surpass 1994? Why or Why not.

I am not sure, so I'm taking a wait-and-see attitude.

Obama is on the stump bashing Republicans as Clinton did in ’94. Is this a good strategy to build support for Democrats in November? Why or why not.

Obama is calling out the Republicans on the tripe that they have themselves issued. He's just shining a spotlight on it. One big reason that John Kerry did not win the Presidential election a few years ago was that he failed to answer the opposition for the things they were saying about him, especially the concerted efforts of the "Swiftboaters".

Obama has the right to defend himself and his administration, regardless of what Boehner thinks or says. The "Tan Man" certainly doesn't worry about his own dignity in striking out.

What issues will drive the electorate for each Party in November?

I think employment is the biggie, and I hope that voters will consider just who has been in the pockets of the industries that continue to lay off American workers in favor of workers overseas.

The biggest factor is which group is the more motivated to get out the vote.

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post Sep 13 2010, 11:04 PM
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Obama is calling out the Republicans on the tripe that they have themselves issued.


If I remember correctly Clinton tried this and the results are history…

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I think employment is the biggie, and I hope that voters will consider just who has been in the pockets of the industries that continue to lay off American workers in favor of workers oversea
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Do you have any proof this is happening? I ask because I have not seen this anywhere. Please post some links.


The reality seems to be that the “stimulus” has not worked as advertized. But let’s remember this is exactly what critics said would happen….
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Will the Democrats hold onto majorities in the House and Senate?

Unsure. The party in power has a pretty good history of losing in mid-term elections, so a cyclical phenomena is not out of the question. However unpopular the Democrats may currently be, if the Republicans take either branch of Government however, it would seem to be a case of voting against something instead of for something.

I'm stumped to see not only any real difference between the two main choices, but seeing anything substantial that the Republicans would bring to the Legislative branch.

Obama is on the stump bashing Republicans as Clinton did in ’94. Is this a good strategy to build support for Democrats in November? Why or why not.

Each party conducts themselves in this manner. Sometimes it contributes to a win....sometimes it doesn't.

What issues will drive the electorate for each Party in November?

Healthcare, economy, jobs.
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post Sep 13 2010, 11:33 PM
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Obama is calling out the Republicans on the tripe that they have themselves issued.


If I remember correctly Clinton tried this and the results are history…

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I think employment is the biggie, and I hope that voters will consider just who has been in the pockets of the industries that continue to lay off American workers in favor of workers oversea
s.

Do you have any proof this is happening? I ask because I have not seen this anywhere. Please post some links.


The reality seems to be that the “stimulus” has not worked as advertized. But let’s remember this is exactly what critics said would happen….

I'm not going to provide links. I believe in the premise that "all politics is local". I know a lot of voters have the attitude, "What have you done for me lately?" This is especially true when a person is unemployed and stands to lose home, car, health care. All other issues matter little if you don't have food, shelter, electricity or transportation for yourself and your family. It is all contingent upon your ability to make a living wage. Even the Afghanistan war pales before basic necessities of life.

Oh, what the heck--Here's a link for you. It shows that I think very much like those who vote like me think:
http://www.pdamerica.org/articles/news/201...-31-29-news.php

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In the poll of 1000 likely general election voters, “We have lost too many manufacturing jobs” is the top concern among independents and working class voters, even compared to government debt, loss of life in Iraq and Afghanistan, the high cost of health care, illegal immigration or terrorism.


And here's a link on job outsourcing from the Council on Foreign Relations:

http://www.cfr.org/publication/7749/trade.html

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What's the debate over outsourcing?
Shifting jobs to lower-wage countries--a form of what is known as offshore outsourcing--is an increasingly popular practice among U.S. businesses seeking to cut operating costs. Outsourcing has also become political shorthand for presidential candidates to describe what is perceived as unfair international trade and its costs for U.S. workers. The issue has become highly emotional because of outsourcing's two dramatically different effects: it leads to layoffs and dislocations for thousands of U.S. workers, even as most economists say it will ultimately strengthen the U.S. economy.
Why has outsourcing become a major political issue?
With the U.S. economy still in recovery from a recession, many people argue that now is not the time to be sending jobs overseas. In addition, the kinds of jobs that are vulnerable to offshore outsourcing--also known as offshoring--have increased dramatically over the past five years. Advances in technology and low-cost telecommunications now mean that a computer programmer, data entry specialist, or help-desk operator answering calls for a U.S. company can work as easily from India or the Philippines as from Iowa--and save parent companies some 30 percent to 70 percent in costs, analysts say. This has led to considerable anxiety in some segments of the U.S. workforce that feel vulnerable to competition from well-educated workers abroad willing to work for, in some cases, one-tenth of the wages paid to Americans.


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