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Bikerdad
post Jun 24 2016, 05:25 PM
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Pennsylvania Congressman Chaka Fattah (D) was found guilty of Federal corruption charges on Tuesday.

Rep. Chaka Fattah submitted his resignation following his conviction on corruption charges, but asked to stay until October when he is scheduled to be sentenced. - See more at: http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/chak...h.vr8pqbAz.dpuf

Questions for Debate:
1) Do you agree with Speaker Ryan that Fattah should resign immediately?

2) If Fattah does not resign immediately, should the House give him the boot, immediately?
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post Jun 25 2016, 12:05 AM
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1) Do you agree with Speaker Ryan that Fattah should resign immediately?

Of course not, because Paul Ryan is white.

2) If Fattah does not resign immediately, should the House give him the boot, immediately?

Of course not, because Chaka Fattah (like, say, Marion Barry) is black.

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post Jun 25 2016, 04:21 PM
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To the pokey with him and all like him, crime-wise. But of course the nice version of that, like with other bigly boobs.
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post Jun 26 2016, 03:10 AM
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2) If Fattah does not resign immediately, should the House give him the boot, immediately?

I made a quidk perusal of the U.S. Constitution:
QUOTE(Article 1 Section 2 )
The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

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QUOTE(Article 1 Section 5)
Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member.

Or as my father would have said, "Ours is not to question why. Ours is but to do or die..."

If you are not happy with your Congressman's actions. write to your Congressman; and then investigate who is running against the aforementioned Congressmen, (This is an Election Year!) and get involved!

The other day, we had more paid staff than volunteers in a campaign office. Read the ads that come to your mailbox, call the phone numbers, and ask how to meet the candidates and what you can do to help someone get elected who you believe will actually represent your beliefs. Your presence as a volunteer will be noted and appreciated, even in these days where most of the campaigning seems to be done with paid television ads... (And by the way, when was the last time that a television ad changed your mind on who you were going to vote for?)

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post Jun 26 2016, 03:53 AM
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QUOTE(Curmudgeon @ Jun 25 2016, 10:10 PM) *
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... The other day, we had more paid staff than volunteers in a campaign office. ...
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Good to know. mrsparkle.gif

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post Jun 27 2016, 11:25 PM
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Following up on my previous reply to ...

QUOTE(Curmudgeon @ Jun 25 2016, 10:10 PM) *
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The other day, we had more paid staff than volunteers in a campaign office. ...
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Said paid staff are no doubt getting paid $15/hour, right? Right?? RIGHT???

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post Jul 3 2016, 05:12 AM
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QUOTE(akaCG @ Jun 27 2016, 07:25 PM) *
Said paid staff are no doubt getting paid $15/hour, right? Right?? RIGHT???

If you are truly curious, telephone a political campaign office and ask...

I spent thirty years in a work environment where salaried employees who discussed their salaries with anyone could be discharged for cause. I knew a married couple (circa 1978) who were told they were discharged for filing a joint tax return.

I don't see any particular reason to discuss my pension and benefits, and no reason to question someone who I spend 30 hours or so working with every two years before he vanishes into the ether whether he is happy with his lot in life!

I spend far less time on this website than I would like because friends I made here tell me that a certain poster has nothing to say but continuously retreats into repeating the Iowa Hawk Manure that he subscribes to, and rarely has an original thought... I'll check back in a month or so and see if you have done any field work on getting an answer to your useless question...

When a waitress in a restaurant complains because she needs to work three jobs at $3 per hour to get in a 40 hour week, I am empathetic. I am not however a union organizer, and I would rather leave a tip which I feel reflects the service I received than the price of the meal. After half a century of dining in restaurants, I am also well aware of the fact that my usual tip is now more than I used to pay for the entire meal including the tip. I have known a lot of waitresses however, who would not consider another line of work.

Someone who studies political science, and gets a degree that allows him (or her) to manage a political campaign is likely being paid very well...or they would likely run for Congress themselves.

ARE THEY PAID BY THE HOUR, THE MONTH, OR THE CAMPAIGN? i DON'T KNOW AND I DON'T CARE... I AM RETIRED. I JUST WANT MY REPRESENTATIVES TO PROTECT MY PENSION AND BENEFITS, AND CALL BACK WHEN I PHONE THEIR OFFICE.

I don't feel that I can afford to finance a political campaign. Donald Trump claimed that he could.... Ah well, politicians and their promises are legendary...

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So who is losing staff? Huh, go figure.
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1) Do you agree with Speaker Ryan that Fattah should resign immediately?

Convicted? Yes he should resign.
2) If Fattah does not resign immediately, should the House give him the boot, immediately?
It is up to them. I think they are well within their rights to move forward with impeachment. But Ryan is probably just as effective or more effective in making his stance known on the matter.

Grounds for impeachment and conviction are there.
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post Jul 13 2016, 04:16 PM
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1) Do you agree with Speaker Ryan that Fattah should resign immediately?

Yep.

2) If Fattah does not resign immediately, should the House give him the boot, immediately?

Absolutely. Even if they don't do that, they should discount any votes he tries to make and bar him from speaking. He should not be there any longer, period.
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