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> Isolationism, Survey Says?
lederuvdapac
post Jun 26 2004, 02:08 AM
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President George Washington's Farewell Address (1796):
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"The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations, is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. Europe has a set of primary interests, which to us have none, or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves, by artificial ties, in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities."


Yes, the policy of isolationism which lasted right up until after World War II. In our current state of world affairs, Americans are in some places loathed and shown major disfavor. France, Germany... two nations in which we rebuilt after WWII and protected from Soviet invasion turned there back on us in the war in Iraq. The people of South Korea protest American and S.Korean military action in Iraq even when the United States is all that protects them from a N.Korean invasion.

The policy of isolationism was successful for many years until we became a world superpower with the Soviet Union. During the Cold War, we were the world's "Knight in Shining Armor" protecting the free world from the evil Communists and we were respected. But with the fall of the Soviet Union and the US emerging as the only superpower we have been degraded by the world even been called "imperialists" by our "closest" allies.

BUT, what if the United States wasn't there for everyone. What if we decided that we will no longer care for the problems of the world and only care about ourselves. Stop sending foreign aid, withdraw all foreign troops, withdraw from the UN and NAFTA, and just worry about our own damn problems. What would the world think then? World Hunger, AIDS, Terrorism, Genocide, Dictators, for now on we will only deal with what affects us personally. The rest of the world can get by on its own. They do not like us? FINE!, they wont ever hear from us again. We can put all those troops on the border to help immigration and our War on Drugs, we can help our own economy by stop sending foreign aid, and we can fight the war on terror with a more secure America and less of a motive for radicals.

Questions for Debate:

1) After our operations in Iraq, would you support a policy of Isolationism?
2) If so, to what extent?
3) What are the benefits/problems with adopting this policy?
4) In your opinion, would the world be a better place?


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lederuvdapac   Isolationism   Jun 26 2004, 02:08 AM
Devils Advocate   Well, I'll get the ball rolling here... Fir...   Jun 26 2004, 02:50 AM
DreamPipEr   When I am in one of my more bitter moods I want co...   Jun 26 2004, 03:06 AM
crashfourit   Maby if we were to leave them alone; they would le...   Jun 26 2004, 03:24 AM
logophage   While isolationism has an appeal, it is entirely u...   Jun 26 2004, 04:26 AM
Robin_Scotland   Isolationism is a bizarre concept to me, something...   Jun 26 2004, 09:11 AM
kalabus   I think it goes well beyond the people of the US n...   Jun 26 2004, 09:47 AM
Julian   For me, the core of this debate is not how much Am...   Jun 26 2004, 11:46 AM
DreamPipEr   The US has been criticized for many decades and it...   Jun 26 2004, 01:37 PM
kalabus   Julien you simply didnt understand my content or y...   Jun 27 2004, 01:21 AM
Hobbes   Kalabus, why do you think we leave these troops ...   Jun 27 2004, 05:11 AM
kalabus   I understand there would be an outbreak in hostili...   Jun 27 2004, 07:16 AM
Piper Plexed   I am all for isolationism, the level of isolation ...   Jun 27 2004, 02:59 PM
overlandsailor   I read this letter several times and I loved it. ...   Jun 27 2004, 03:25 PM
moif   :blink: America would literally die of oil starvat...   Jun 27 2004, 04:49 PM
Piper Plexed   Great link Overland! An addendum to my post is...   Jun 27 2004, 04:56 PM
GoAmerica   No. The problem with adopting the policy of Iso...   Jun 27 2004, 05:05 PM
citylawyer   We must be careful not to outline the parameters o...   Jun 27 2004, 06:48 PM
Chiefdork   1) After our operations in Iraq, would you suppor...   Jun 27 2004, 07:12 PM
crashfourit   The world needs a healthy dose of American Isolati...   Jun 27 2004, 07:47 PM
Ultimatejoe   You're all over the map here. Better quality...   Jun 27 2004, 08:28 PM
citylawyer   Lets look at some numbers to show how shortsighted...   Jun 27 2004, 09:21 PM
Chiefdork   Better quality of food? You do realize that not al...   Jun 27 2004, 09:38 PM
Ultimatejoe   You're right, you can't. Now, what do yo...   Jun 27 2004, 09:51 PM
overlandsailor   [/quote] I know this will sound harsh and hear...   Jun 27 2004, 11:51 PM
Piper Plexed   The whole GNP argument really is no concern of m...   Jun 28 2004, 02:06 AM
Julian   Piper I did some digging of my own, prompted by t...   Jun 28 2004, 09:32 PM
DreamPipEr   But back on topic, is it really wise to be so isol...   Jun 28 2004, 10:23 PM
Ultimatejoe   Hey, I resent this. Other countries from around ...   Jun 28 2004, 10:29 PM
DreamPipEr   UJ- No offense intended and Thanks! Julian...   Jun 28 2004, 10:56 PM
Piper Plexed   Julian Posted on Jun 28 2004, 05:32 PM No the bot...   Jun 29 2004, 01:52 AM
Julian   I do not believe that more than a handful of ...   Jun 29 2004, 09:33 AM
yisaiii   America can go isolationist again, so be it, but d...   Jun 29 2004, 02:02 PM
DreamPipEr   I think the US can retreat itself to a semi isol...   Jun 29 2004, 05:32 PM
Ultimatejoe   Retreating financially would come at a great cost ...   Jun 29 2004, 06:06 PM
DreamPipEr   No I wouldn’t. I have no issues with dissent and...   Jun 29 2004, 07:40 PM
christopher   Do business with them. Vacations,Sure! Othe...   Jun 29 2004, 08:05 PM
Robin_Scotland   I'm not in a bad mood; but to be frank, I too ...   Jun 29 2004, 08:45 PM
Mrs. Pigpen   I am having an isolationist-syndrome sort of day/w...   Jun 29 2004, 09:34 PM
G Iron   Economics aren't nearly as simple as: tarriff=...   Jun 30 2004, 08:07 PM
Julian   Some American's constantly complain that the r...   Jun 30 2004, 08:37 PM
DreamPipEr   American's have a streak of isolationism in us...   Jun 30 2004, 11:33 PM
Julian   Like Spiderman's uncle says - with great powe...   Jul 1 2004, 12:33 PM
Looms   I agree with Christopher, NOTHING, NADA, NOT A S...   Jul 1 2004, 02:44 PM
Eeyore   1) After our operations in...   Jul 1 2004, 02:58 PM
Amlord   1) After our operations in Iraq, would you support...   Jul 1 2004, 05:31 PM
Lixlaxlox   As a free market economy, the use would find it ex...   Jul 2 2004, 08:27 AM
nebraska29   3.) A problem would be that we would have to cede...   Jul 2 2004, 04:28 PM
Conn   Well, I'm talking from a Brit's perspecti...   Jul 2 2004, 06:48 PM
GoAmerica   The people of the world depend on the US for help...   Jul 2 2004, 07:21 PM
Hero   I do not believe that the US should persue isolati...   Jul 3 2004, 09:39 AM
Mrs. Pigpen   A large percentage of our defense funding (that e...   Jul 3 2004, 02:16 PM
Hero   inflammatory name calling...   Jul 3 2004, 05:52 PM
Mrs. Pigpen   Why is it then that Israel is the recipient of t...   Jul 3 2004, 06:30 PM
Hero   I only have access to the information I have read....   Jul 3 2004, 11:22 PM
notarealme   If the US was to take this action, it would only m...   Jul 4 2004, 12:19 PM
Izdaari   Isolationism is maybe the wrong term. Too many peo...   Jul 6 2004, 05:37 AM
crashfourit   They mean that the government should refrain from ...   Jul 6 2004, 02:31 PM
ashvinvk   Yeah, the term is naughty. :thumbsup: me like...   Jul 23 2004, 09:06 PM
Jaime   ashvinvk - welcome. Since you're new you prob...   Jul 23 2004, 09:13 PM


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