QUOTE(nighttimer @ Jun 29 2005, 07:56 AM)
QUOTE(nemov @ Jun 29 2005, 07:33 AM)
I also love the fact you are quoting the same Rep. that gave us "freedom fries." Another shining example of how quickly politics can change. A lot of different things affect Poll numbers. These polls are completely meaningless at this point.Hayleyanne
Bush has received so much criticism for the war at this point any type of moderate success in Iraq and he’ll be hailed a “great president.” Something that is totally undeserved and created by the liberal hysteria we are witnessing today.
, when the president gives a speech like this to the nation it is usually released to the press hours before he actually gives it. On ABC News at 6:30 pm they quoted his line equating 9/11 and Iraq and several others.
Oh yes, Nemov
, how quickly politics can change. After 9/11 Bush's approval ratings were in the 90 percent range. Today they're half that. You may think those poll numbers "are completely meaningless" but with Congressional elections looming in 2006, they aren't warming the hearts of the Republican National Committee.
People are losing faith in this president, his policies and his party. Yeah, I quoted Representative Jones exactly because he isn't
some kind of wishy-washy liberal spewing venom at Bush and cheerleading the insurgency. You can sneer at his disenchantment if you like, but Jones and his constituents can read and it probably isn't The New York Times. They know while Bush makes Iraq sound like someplace you should take the wife and kids this summer, not a day goes by without some Iraqi politician, soldier, policeman or innocent being killed.
Let's not even talk about how disgusting it is for a man who refused to put himself in harm's way to go before a crowd of soldiers and tell them he's going to put their butts on the line for his war. That's real nice.
Any and all the criticism Bush has received has been both Richly Deserved and Not Enough.
, need we have a lesson in CIVICS 101??? Who exactly voted for this war??? Do you really need the voting record? We all know
that the President cannot wage war alone...
The funny thing is that this war, as unpopular as it is, continually lays in the lap of GW when it comes to disdain. I can only imagine what liberal slug (like John Kerry or Howard Dean) would be the champion of this cause if it were more popular. What if public opinion were different? I can see Mr. Dean screaming at some crowd at some pro-war rally. The fact
is that, with the same intelligence, that congress
voted for this war. Consider public opinion on issues such as:The Iran Contra Scandal or Beirut
, both of which historians agree were means to an end. Oliver North was made out to be a traitor, when in fact he was putting his life on the line for other Americans. Funny how politics change
Spewing rhetorical statements about GW's war record is as pertinent as me spewing about Kerry's grandeous stories about his war experiences... meaningless. There were plenty of congressmen whom had
served in combat that voted for the war.
The bottom line is that, regardless of your politics, you have to concede
to the fact that there are checks and balances in our gov't. You have to concede
to the fact that we're in Iraq now, and there has to be something done about it.
I'm not a proponent of war, as I've seen it first hand and am forever changed because of it. That being said, I would imagine that nearly everyone on this board remembers how popular the decision to go to war was, and who all was "riding that train".... If the decisions were mine, I'm not sure what I'd have done. That being said, there's no rewind
button in history and lest we not forget that hindsight is 20/20.
Finally, and most importantly in my mind, approval ratings and polls are interestingly meaningless in America today. Consider the margin of success for GW in the previous election, and consider all the polls that predicted his loss. We all know how polls are built, conducted, and tallied...