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Chris W
I would like to address the questions asked and then maybe point something out that I have not seen in the replies to the original post and topic.

1. Is it possible that Iraqis will opt to be more like Iran and Saudi Arabia than countries like Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Libya, Lebanon and Jordan? If so could this still be considered a "Democracy" with some of the rights questions at stake?

I think this will only be answered by time and how they actually implement the "laws" they lay down. What is interesting is that there was a loud cry from some camps that the womens rights would be lost in this process, yet I see there were women on the committee that put this document together.

2. Is this the type of government that the Bush administration had in mind when they set out to liberate Iraq? If not, what action do you foresee the US Government taking if any?

I do not think that the US would, or for that matter, could, do anything to a elected government. Since we have been touting that is what we wanted, the Iraqi people to have their "own" government and be self sufficient, it would be hard now to say, oh no thats not the one we want.

3. Would this type of government help or hurt our objectives in the war on terror?

I think it would help. Yet, it very much depends on the actions that the government would take against any terrorist once the US stops being in the forefront of the military and police actions there.

Now the point I would like to add is has everyone forgotten about Turkey? Its a republican parliamentary democracy, that is 99.8% muslim. It is a perfect example of the fact that a muslim democracy can work, to some extent. They are mostly Sunni Muslim (80%) and Kurdish (20%). So why can't it work in Iraq? I think it can given the time and assistance it may require. (Facts on Turkey were taken from here: Turkey from the World Fact Book.

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QUOTE(Cube Jockey @ Aug 30 2005, 11:50 AM)
Ok first of all you'll have to pardon me if I don't really trust anything posted at Powerline (which is simply a rightwing hack blog).

Well, I'm sure that Dan Rather wishes that powerline wasn't around, but as we discussed over at "Are blogs legitimate news sources" blogs can be a source of legitimate news. What "mainstream" news source should I view to find good news polls coming out of Iraq exactly?

As for hack blogs - Are you suggesting that we ignore posts that refer to blog-only sources? I can't find anything in the rules stating that I may not source and attribute a blog, especially a blog that is merely translating an article from arabic.

Not to mention....

QUOTE(Cube Jockey @ Mar 22 2005, 07:31 PM)
I ran across this article over at Daily Kos, where one of the bloggers there has posted an interview with former governor and presidential candidate Michael Dukakis. It makes for a pretty interesting read if you want to check it out. He talks specifically about the importance of a full court press on grassroots campaigns:


QUOTE(Cube Jockey @ Feb 23 2005, 03:16 PM)
Judging by the last election, the only way the Bush administration knows how to win is through smear tactics.  They know they work and they are not ashamed to use them, off the record of course and with no knowledge of involvement.

And just as an FYI, you can find the image that was being run on the USA Next website as well as several right wing blogs over at Daily Kos.


QUOTE(Cube Jockey @ Nov 16 2004, 12:45 PM)
This article over at Daily Kos is a good read and I think summarizes the problem nicely.


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If you still aren't a supporter of Dean for the DNC chair, check out this speech. I grabbed this from the front page of the Democratic Underground.


QUOTE(cube jockey @ Sep 15 2004, 03:22 PM)
I'd like everyone to take a read of this in full. Yes it is from Daily KOS, not the most conservative site on the web but it does provide a very in depth look and quite a bit of analysis on this.


Perhaps we'd be better off debating the substance rather than the source, especially at the pace with which "the media" is evolving.
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QUOTE(Cube Jockey @ Aug 30 2005, 11:50 AM)
Secondly as I have stated it doesn't matter if the whole of the kurdish and the shiite population wants this document to be passed - the sunnis have the power to kill it.  So your article is really irrelevant.


Well, if 88% of the Iraqi people are going to vote on a Constitution, given the rules of the game, their wishes are going to be implemented. Whether that means that 3 of the 4 Sunni provinces reject it, it certainly doesn't make the high levels of participation "irrelevant." More like "self determination."

As for your comment "It is one thing to have all sorts of nifty language in your constitution, it is quite another to follow it. " I think that we would all agree that the USA shouldn't go throwing stones here, especially in advance.
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