quarkhead
Feb 3 2003, 07:09 AM
General Norman Schwarzkopf has misgivings about the war, and is not particularly enamored of Mr. Rumsfeld. Interesting.
Norman SpeaksThere are veteran groups also speaking out, and some of the Pentagon top brass as well. It is expected to dismss the views of the doves in the surrent situation. Can we afford to ignore the hawks' dissent as well?
Alan Wood
Feb 3 2003, 10:01 AM
Listen to what your people with experience say.
This bloke has been there and done that.
Some of those in the military also have missgivings.
Back out now while your communial ego can be assuaged.
Regards........Alan
turnea
Feb 3 2003, 01:05 PM
I see no reason to "ignore" anyone's opinion. That is not to say that he or anyone else is right. Just another voice...
The decision should be reached by weighing the concerns and risks. It doesn't matter who's on what side.
Digital Patriot
Feb 3 2003, 04:58 PM
And I'm sure there are top brass at the pentagon, who think Bush is making the right decision.
--cheers
AuthorMusician
Feb 3 2003, 05:10 PM
Interesting interview. Shwarzkopf brought up the same concerns a lot of citizens have, and he hit the nail on the head with Rumsfeld. This whole administration gives me the willies when it comes to the subject of war.
Is that because few people in the administration have ever been to war, let alone experienced combat?
Peace rally in Colorado Springs on the 15th of February--part of a wordwide set of rallies. I'll be there trying to dig up some interesting stories for freelance articles. I'm wondering what people on both sides are thinking right now. Of course, the way this war has been handled, people may think quite differently in a couple of weeks as message spins come forth from Rumsfeld et al.
What is it now, total disarmament?
Oh, I also liked it that Shwarzkopf looks past the war. We need to do this too.
otseng
Feb 3 2003, 06:55 PM
Interesting article. If even Gen Schwarzkopf is not convinced that we should go to war, how can the administration expect the US public to?
Stefan Fargus
Feb 3 2003, 07:17 PM
I have a great deal of respect for the General, and I think he did raise allot of questions that many of the American people are asking right now. Its nice to see that somebody who has the administration's ear has had the guts to speak up, and say what so many of us are thinking. Not necessarily that we are against the stance on Iraq, but that we want to know the ins, outs, and why's before we'll support risking the lives of our troops.
moif
Feb 3 2003, 07:57 PM
An extremely interesting article. Thanks for the link Quarkhead. I've often wondered what became of Schwarzkopf.
I agree with him about Rumsfeld. He worries me as well, and I am all for ousting Saddam Hussein. But there is something close to levity about Rumsfeld's statements which lead me to the conclusion that he does not really understand the possibility of failure, even in success.
No one goes to war smiling, unless they have nothing to lose.
Wertz
Feb 3 2003, 08:33 PM
QUOTE(Digital Patriot @ Feb 3 2003, 11:58 AM)
And I'm sure there are top brass at the pentagon, who think Bush is making the right decision.
On what do you base your certainty? Have you been able to find any? Since I came across major military dissent in
The American Conservative several months ago, I've been looking - unsuccessfully. Please share.
Eeyore
Feb 3 2003, 10:15 PM
QUOTE(turnea @ Feb 3 2003, 07:05 AM)
I see no reason to "ignore" anyone's opinion. That is not to say that he or anyone else is right. Just another voice...
General Norman Schwarzkopf is much much more than just another voice. If we are going to compare this effort to our last, he is a unique voice and I am quite surprised the administration would have let this rift become open.
It is bad politics. It is still looking like a bad policy. And it looks like we are placing our soldiers in the way of too much harm.
turnea
Feb 3 2003, 11:22 PM
I did not mean to imply the General perspective was anything less than unique and important, but it is certainly not the last word. An opinion is still just an opinion and reason is what counts. As to war in Iraq being a good or bad idea, whole different topic...
Eeyore
Feb 4 2003, 03:27 AM
That's a little glib. Who is to then say what is opinion and what is reason. General Norman Schwarzkopf seemed to be the voice of reason in this case.
And we are not all equal. His is not just another voice. His is a credible one based on experience. It is not the definitive voice, but I count it equal to any other one voice in understanding the issues before us. And I still don't see why the Bush team didn't get his duck lined up in a row.
turnea
Feb 4 2003, 01:19 PM
I call it opinion because his reasoning was not written into the article, beyond the fact that he feels he hasn't seen enough evidence. He seems to be looking for nuclear capabilities. A more in depth article would have allowed to examine that reasoning. All this article does is showcase his opinion.
turnea
Feb 9 2003, 03:34 PM
I just noticed the general and Madeline Allbright on Meet the Press, just as a heads up

it could give us more insight...
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