Full Version: Looters.......
QUOTE(Dontreadonme @ Sep 1 2005, 08:58 PM)
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I pointed to obvious, undeniable racist bias media coverage of the looters
No, you pointed to ONE instance of AP captioning two photos. Is that all the evidence that you usually need to confirm a point? Could it possibly be that most remaining residents left in New Orleans are black? Could that possibly be a reason that we see a preponderance of black faces looting? How is that biased racist media coverage? On what planet does that law of statistics hold water?
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The ONLY critique of racism I had was in the media coverage (which you ADMITTED TO IN YOUR INITAL THREAD POST!). But when I do it, all of a sudden I'm playing the race card?
Wrong. "Let the n*ggers starve and die, just make sure they don't take any of our stuff." Real classy wording.....
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I'm especially curious as to where exactly in my post I excused "violence," at all, especially excusing violence perpetrated by black people simply because they are black.
This reads as an excuse to me:
Yes, they are mostly poor, and yes, they are mostly black. Which, coincidentally, makes it a hell of a lot easier for people to feel unsympathetic for them and to lead to them thinking of them as animals instead of people, and worthy of killing for stealing a TV.
What's your point in writing the above? We (read whitey) see blacks looting and automatically think of them as animals, because they're black? We feel contempt for those that would steal non-essentials from fellow citizens during a time of disaster, and only condemn them because they're black?
Convince me of how much time a news reporter should spend on finding a white face looting when they arguably make up a small minority of the urban residents of New Orleans in the first place.....One instance of racially insensitive or racist captioning should not color the entire media coverage.
Race shouldn't even enter into this debate until or unless there are actual instances of racism. I was curt with you, probably becuase I had read your blog. I apologize for not addressing the remainder of your post.
Unfortunately, it is being perpetrated by the left wing blogs and circulated along with the various thoeries about Bush causing Katrina.
I agree... Its the number of blacks remaining in the area.. therefore.. you are going to see more blacks doing pretty much anything.. but in this case looting..
QUOTE(hegenc @ Sep 12 2005, 01:12 AM)
I agree... Its the number of blacks remaining in the area.. therefore.. you are going to see more blacks doing pretty much anything.. but in this case looting.
The Fort Worth Star Telegram is a conservative to moderate newspaper that endorsed Bush in 2004. Still, they have a number of opinion writers that I like, including Maureen Dowd, David Broder, Molly Ivins and locally Bob Ray Sanders.
The FWST also carries The Miami Herald’s Leonard Pitts. Pitts made much the same observation you made, but worded it a little differently.
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Let me say a few things here. The first is that New Orleans is, according to the last census, 67.3 percent black. Given that looting is predictable under any significant breakdown of social order, who would you expect to find out there smashing windows when the lights go out? Ethnic Hawaiians?
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/opinion/12570843.htm
QUOTE(hegenc @ Sep 12 2005, 02:12 AM)
I agree... Its the number of blacks remaining in the area.. therefore.. you are going to see more blacks doing pretty much anything.. but in this case looting..
Since you're new you likely didn't realize one-liners are against the Rules. Please be constructive in your responses, which often includes citations of sources to back up your opinion.
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In the aftermath of a natural disaster, is looting a crime of such contempt that a home or business owner may have more moral authority to take the law into his or her own hands?
Should law enforcement or business owners turn a blind eye at the looting of food and water and simply attempt to stop the robbery of luxury consumer items?
In your opinion, what is the impetus that would cause a presumably law abiding citizen to become a looter?
Just thought I'd add something to this thread, since Mr P spoke with a doctor (a civilian dermatologist) yesterday about the situation in New Orleans, as that is where she is from. She said that the reason many of the people didn't leave in the first place was not that they didn't have transportation, but when there have been hurricane evacuation warnings in the past and the people boarded up their homes, they have been looted while away. Her grandmother and much of her family stayed through the storm for this reason. They put their lives in jeopardy because they didn't wish to be looted, which they had come to expect.
I thought that was an interesting perspective from someone who grew up there. The consequences of mass looting endanger lives even before a storm sets in. It isn't just about "missing items," it is about the effect of that fear on the individuals who don't wish to be robbed. She is black, and that impression comes from the perspective of a minority who grew up in the non-affluent area of New Orleans.
I thought that was an interesting perspective from someone who grew up there. The consequences of mass looting endanger lives even before a storm sets in. It isn't just about "missing items," it is about the effect of that fear on the individuals who don't wish to be robbed. She is black, and that impression comes from the perspective of a minority who grew up in the non-affluent area of New Orleans.
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