Full Version: A third Jewish Temple?
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=70349
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanhedrin
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=44672
http://www.templeinstitute.org/about.htm
In order to bring this into fuition, the removal of the El-Aksa Mosque, otherwise known as the Rock of the Dome, would need to happen, which would infuriate Moslems the world over.
Completion of certain Jewish religious artifacts and plans on constructing the third Temple off site, in "segments", only to be assembled onsite at a later date...
Could this "Zionist" intent and a definite Muslim backlash be a scenario that is being overlooked by the world?
Will Israel or a majority of the Jews support the building of a temple and What are the implications/blacklash if this group tries to build a temple?
What are the implications of these plans on the roadmap to peace or to the palestinian people?
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Sanhedrin Launched In Tiberias
A unique ceremony - probably only the 2nd of its kind in the past 1,600 years - took place in Tiberias today: The launching of a Sanhedrin, the highest Jewish-legal tribunal in the Land of Israel.
A unique ceremony - probably only the 2nd of its kind in the past 1,600 years - took place in Tiberias today: The launching of a Sanhedrin, the highest Jewish-legal tribunal in the Land of Israel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanhedrin
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However, this "reinstated Sanhedrin" is not recognized by the Israeli government nor by the vast majority of Jews, regardless of their level of observance. Even in the Haredi world, most people do not accept its authority. However, a year after its establishment, it was reported that the body was in "dialogue with the Ministry of Education over the Bible and Scriptures curriculum".
Though the majority of the membership of the 71-member "new" Sanhedrin remain anonymous, seven members have been selected to represent the body to the public. Three of these seven are leaders of the Temple Mount Movement who advocate demolishing the Al-Aqsa Mosque to make way for a Third Temple in Jerusalem. Further, the "new" Sanhedrin has confirmed its place within the Temple Mount Movement by announcing its intention to take steps to prepare for the rebuilding of the Temple.
Though the majority of the membership of the 71-member "new" Sanhedrin remain anonymous, seven members have been selected to represent the body to the public. Three of these seven are leaders of the Temple Mount Movement who advocate demolishing the Al-Aqsa Mosque to make way for a Third Temple in Jerusalem. Further, the "new" Sanhedrin has confirmed its place within the Temple Mount Movement by announcing its intention to take steps to prepare for the rebuilding of the Temple.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=44672
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New 'Sanhedrin' plans
rebuilding of Temple
Israeli rabbinical body calls
for architectural blueprint
The Israeli rabbinical council involved with re-establishing the Sanhedrin, is calling upon all groups involved in Temple Mount research to prepare detailed architectural plans for the reconstruction of the Jewish Holy Temple.
rebuilding of Temple
Israeli rabbinical body calls
for architectural blueprint
The Israeli rabbinical council involved with re-establishing the Sanhedrin, is calling upon all groups involved in Temple Mount research to prepare detailed architectural plans for the reconstruction of the Jewish Holy Temple.
http://www.templeinstitute.org/about.htm
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The Institute is dedicated to every aspect of the Biblical commandment to build the Holy Temple of G-d on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem...The major focus of the Institute is its efforts towards the beginning of the actual rebuilding of the Holy Temple.
In order to bring this into fuition, the removal of the El-Aksa Mosque, otherwise known as the Rock of the Dome, would need to happen, which would infuriate Moslems the world over.
Completion of certain Jewish religious artifacts and plans on constructing the third Temple off site, in "segments", only to be assembled onsite at a later date...
Could this "Zionist" intent and a definite Muslim backlash be a scenario that is being overlooked by the world?
Will Israel or a majority of the Jews support the building of a temple and What are the implications/blacklash if this group tries to build a temple?
What are the implications of these plans on the roadmap to peace or to the palestinian people?
In order to bring this into fuition, the removal of the El-Aksa Mosque, otherwise known as the Rock of the Dome, would need to happen, which would infuriate Moslems the world over.
Completion of certain Jewish religious artifacts and plans on constructing the third Temple off site, in "segments", only to be assembled onsite at a later date... Could this "Zionist" intent and a definite Muslim backlash be a scenario that is being overlooked by the world?
First of all. So what if it infuriates the Muslims of the world? If Israel owns the land upon which the al aqsa mosque stands then its their right to remove it. Its just a building after all and its not as if Islam has any right to complain given its track record on respecting the buildings or holy places of other religions and cultures.
Second. If the zionists want to build their third temple, let them go ahead. There seems to be a lot of people around the world just gagging for the 'end of days' and the sooner this bubble gets popped the better in my opinion.
Will Israel or a majority of the Jews support the building of a temple and What are the implications/blacklash if this group tries to build a temple?
I doubt it. I think most Israeli's will prefer to tread softly when it comes to religous buildings like the al aqsa mosque.
What are the implications of these plans on the roadmap to peace or to the palestinian people?
It depends on whether the plans for the third temple are realised.
If they are I can imagine a backlash from the Palestinians, but given the total lack of any credible Palestinian movement towards peace in this post Arafat era, then who cares what they think? They're still going to use violence as a means to their ends any way so what does it make any difference...?
I'm sure this will eventually perculate to the surface as it gets more attention, and no doubt the Iranians will make something of it as further justification for their own political-religious agenda, but again, so what? Its not as if leaving the al aqsa mosque alone is going to make the slightest difference what so ever.
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Completion of certain Jewish religious artifacts and plans on constructing the third Temple off site, in "segments", only to be assembled onsite at a later date... Could this "Zionist" intent and a definite Muslim backlash be a scenario that is being overlooked by the world?
First of all. So what if it infuriates the Muslims of the world? If Israel owns the land upon which the al aqsa mosque stands then its their right to remove it. Its just a building after all and its not as if Islam has any right to complain given its track record on respecting the buildings or holy places of other religions and cultures.
Second. If the zionists want to build their third temple, let them go ahead. There seems to be a lot of people around the world just gagging for the 'end of days' and the sooner this bubble gets popped the better in my opinion.
Will Israel or a majority of the Jews support the building of a temple and What are the implications/blacklash if this group tries to build a temple?
I doubt it. I think most Israeli's will prefer to tread softly when it comes to religous buildings like the al aqsa mosque.
What are the implications of these plans on the roadmap to peace or to the palestinian people?
It depends on whether the plans for the third temple are realised.
If they are I can imagine a backlash from the Palestinians, but given the total lack of any credible Palestinian movement towards peace in this post Arafat era, then who cares what they think? They're still going to use violence as a means to their ends any way so what does it make any difference...?
I'm sure this will eventually perculate to the surface as it gets more attention, and no doubt the Iranians will make something of it as further justification for their own political-religious agenda, but again, so what? Its not as if leaving the al aqsa mosque alone is going to make the slightest difference what so ever.
edited to answer the second two questions
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First of all. So what if it infuriates the Muslims of the world? If Israel owns the land upon which the al aqsa mosque stands then its their right to remove it. Its just a building after all and its not as if Islam has any right to complain given its track record on respecting the buildings or holy places of other religions and cultures.
Second. If the zionists want to build their third temple, let them go ahead. There seems to be a lot of people around the world just gagging for the 'end of days' and the sooner this bubble gets popped the better in my opinion.
Second. If the zionists want to build their third temple, let them go ahead. There seems to be a lot of people around the world just gagging for the 'end of days' and the sooner this bubble gets popped the better in my opinion.
I think you're underestimating peoples religious convictions, Moif. People have died in the name of God, Allah, Jehovah and Christ. The Crusades are STILL happening in one form or fashion. And that's not just an "end times" issue, it's a fact.
I don't want to see people die. But the fact is, Muslims, do exhault the Dome of the Rock:
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/History/I...me_Of_The_Rock/
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The most universally recognized symbol of Jerusalem is not a Jewish or Christian holy place but a Muslim one: the Dome of the Rock. When people see its golden dome rising above the open expanse of al-Masjid al-Aqsa, they think of only one place in the world.
There is an often quoted statement of Muslim historian al-Muqaddasi on the reason for the building of Dome of the Rock. Al-Muqaddasi asked his uncle why al-Walid spent spent so much money on the building of the mosques in Damascus. The uncle answered:
"O my little son, thou has no understanding. Verily al-Walid was right, and he was prompted to a worthy work. For he beheld Syria to be a country that had long been occupied by the Christians, and he noted there are beautiful churches still belonging to them , so enchantingly fair, and so renowned for their spendour, as are the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, and the Churches of Lydda and Edessa. So he sought to build for the Muslims a mosque that should be unique and a wonder to the world. And in like manner is it not evident that `Abd al-Malik, seeing the greatness of the martyrium [Qubbah] of the Holy Sepulchre and its magnificence was moved lest it should dazzle the minds of Muslims and hence erected above the Rock the Dome which is now seen there."
The Dome of the Rock is Jerusalem's answer to Paris' Eiffel Tower, Rome's St. Peter's Square, London's Big Ben and Kuala Lumpur's Petronas towers; dazzling the minds of Muslims and non-Muslims alike. The Dome of the Rock is Jerusalem.
The Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, situated on the holy city, undoubtedly one of the most celebrated and most remarkable monuments of early Islam, visited every year by thousands of pilgrims and tourists. Unfortunately, it has also attracted the polemics from the non-Muslims and more so from the Christian missionaries. We aim to discuss some of them here.
There is an often quoted statement of Muslim historian al-Muqaddasi on the reason for the building of Dome of the Rock. Al-Muqaddasi asked his uncle why al-Walid spent spent so much money on the building of the mosques in Damascus. The uncle answered:
"O my little son, thou has no understanding. Verily al-Walid was right, and he was prompted to a worthy work. For he beheld Syria to be a country that had long been occupied by the Christians, and he noted there are beautiful churches still belonging to them , so enchantingly fair, and so renowned for their spendour, as are the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, and the Churches of Lydda and Edessa. So he sought to build for the Muslims a mosque that should be unique and a wonder to the world. And in like manner is it not evident that `Abd al-Malik, seeing the greatness of the martyrium [Qubbah] of the Holy Sepulchre and its magnificence was moved lest it should dazzle the minds of Muslims and hence erected above the Rock the Dome which is now seen there."
The Dome of the Rock is Jerusalem's answer to Paris' Eiffel Tower, Rome's St. Peter's Square, London's Big Ben and Kuala Lumpur's Petronas towers; dazzling the minds of Muslims and non-Muslims alike. The Dome of the Rock is Jerusalem.
The Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, situated on the holy city, undoubtedly one of the most celebrated and most remarkable monuments of early Islam, visited every year by thousands of pilgrims and tourists. Unfortunately, it has also attracted the polemics from the non-Muslims and more so from the Christian missionaries. We aim to discuss some of them here.
Try bombing the Vatican or any of the aboved mentioned sites and see how their respective followers would respond.
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I think you're underestimating peoples religious convictions, Moif. People have died in the name of God, Allah, Jehovah and Christ. The Crusades are STILL happening in one form or fashion. And that's not just an "end times" issue, it's a fact.
There needs to be a couple of facts interjected here. First NO Islamic scholar believes that Jerusalem is holy to Islam. They have two holy cities, Mecca and Medina. There is no third holy city, that was an invention of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem in the 1920s and 30s. Before we went to Berlin to raise Muslim SS Divisions.
Second for the past 57 years the Arab countries have been doing everything they can to destroy Israel. There is truly nothing that is going to change that or make it any worse.
Could this "Zionist" intent and a definite Muslim backlash be a scenario that is being overlooked by the world? There is nothing to this. Israel's mere existence is enough for them. Nothing we say or do will ever change that.
Will Israel or a majority of the Jews support the building of a temple and What are the implications/blacklash if this group tries to build a temple? There is a very small minority that supports the building. The likelihood would be about the same as the Libertian Party getting the House and Senate in the next election.
You can talk it to death won't make it happen.
What are the implications of these plans on the roadmap to peace or to the palestinian people? None, the roadmap is dead, there has never been anything more than a process without any movement on the Arab side.
The Palestinians only want all of the land without any Jews. This they have attempted to do on thousands of times and have continually stated for all to hear and read.
This is not even an issue in Israel.
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