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When policemen, soldiers and officials in Kirkuk who were injured in insurgent attacks arrived in the emergency room of the hospital, they hoped their chances of surviving had gone up as doctors tended their wounds.
In fact, many of the wounded were almost certain to die because one of the doctors at the Republic Hospital was a member of an insurgent cell. Pretending to treat the injured men, he killed 43 of them by secretly administering lethal injections, a police inquiry has revealed.
Terrorist doctor murdering wounded soldiers - Independent Online
Questions for debate:
1) What should be done to the doctor?
2) How likely is it that more "insurgents" are murdering in hospitals?
3) Will this get coverage here at anywhere near the same level as the USMC Haditha incident being discussed in another thread? If not, why not?
In fact, many of the wounded were almost certain to die because one of the doctors at the Republic Hospital was a member of an insurgent cell. Pretending to treat the injured men, he killed 43 of them by secretly administering lethal injections, a police inquiry has revealed.
Terrorist doctor murdering wounded soldiers - Independent Online
Questions for debate:
1) What should be done to the doctor?
2) How likely is it that more "insurgents" are murdering in hospitals?
3) Will this get coverage here at anywhere near the same level as the USMC Haditha incident being discussed in another thread? If not, why not?
1. Clearly he should be treated as the mass murderer that he is. I don't want to get into a death penalty debate here, but clearly the harshest possible punishment for multiple first degree murder would be appropriate.
2. Hard to say. Possible, I suppose, but I have a feeling that this is going to turn out to be a very unusual, possibly unique case.
3. I would imagine that the media would pay attention to this story simply because it is inherently of great interest to readers and viewers. Cold-blooded murder on such a scale always sells newspapers, and this has nothing to do with politics.
Even if we were to accept the premise that the American media want to undermine the war effort, I see no reason why they would not play up this story. If anything, it tends to make the situation in Iraq seem even more chaotic.
Sounds like civil war to me.
If the actions of American and allied forces are scrutinized much more closely by the media than those of the enemy, it is because we are supposed to be the Good Guys, and have to live up to a much higher standard of behavior. Whether or not the invasion of Iraq was a mistake, now that it is a fact, it must be conducted with as much decency as the inherently horrible business of warfare allows.
2. Hard to say. Possible, I suppose, but I have a feeling that this is going to turn out to be a very unusual, possibly unique case.
3. I would imagine that the media would pay attention to this story simply because it is inherently of great interest to readers and viewers. Cold-blooded murder on such a scale always sells newspapers, and this has nothing to do with politics.
Even if we were to accept the premise that the American media want to undermine the war effort, I see no reason why they would not play up this story. If anything, it tends to make the situation in Iraq seem even more chaotic.
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The murderous work of Dr Louay is symbolic of the ferocity of the struggle for the oil province of Kirkuk. The dispute over its fate is the most important reason why the political parties in Baghdad have failed to create a new government three months after the election on 15 December. The Kurds, expelled from Kirkuk and replaced with Arab settlers by Saddam Hussein, captured the city on 10 April 2003. They have no intention of giving it up. "We will never leave Kirkuk," said Rizgar Ali Hamajan, the former Kurdish peshmerga (soldier) who heads the provincial council. "It is part of Kurdistan."
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Kirkuk is not a place where many people would like to live - but the battle to control it may yet destroy Iraq.
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Kirkuk is not a place where many people would like to live - but the battle to control it may yet destroy Iraq.
Sounds like civil war to me.
If the actions of American and allied forces are scrutinized much more closely by the media than those of the enemy, it is because we are supposed to be the Good Guys, and have to live up to a much higher standard of behavior. Whether or not the invasion of Iraq was a mistake, now that it is a fact, it must be conducted with as much decency as the inherently horrible business of warfare allows.
Communist China decided to invade the USA. They killed tens of thousands of Americans in the process. An American doctor out of California or somewhere close to it was killing the illegally invaded Communist Chinese occupation soldiers. Would that American doctor be acting illegally by killing Chinese a.k.a. foreign occupation troops? Of course not. An enemy can be killed by any means, really. Dead is dead. Anyways, any Iraqi who kills an invading foreign troop, in this case American G.I.'s, should be considered a loyal Iraqi. And no one is allowed to say garbage like "doctors are required to respect and cherish human life, because we all know how many horrible ghastly experiments the US has performed on usually unsuspecting American citizens.
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1) What should be done to the doctor?
The Iraqis should give him a medal and do all they can to protect and aid this doctor.
The Americans should detain him in some way.
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2) How likely is it that more "insurgents" are murdering in hospitals?
No more likely than that there are Americans murdering Iraqis in homes and hospitals around Iraq. You think GI's aren't like that? That they act with honor while murdering? Check it out.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5365.htm
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3) Will this get coverage here at anywhere near the same level as the USMC Haditha incident being discussed in another thread? If not, why not?
Yeah sure it will. Or not. It's moot though. It matters not. Anyone who is all gung ho over the US killing mission in Iraq has to know that the US media is on their side. Drones will whine about the "left-wing liberal media who only focus on the bad side if Iraq", but the truth is that the media asks no hard questions of Bush or anyone else in power.
1) What should be done to the doctor?
Obviously the doctor should be imprisoned, tried, and made to rot in prison, but I have no idea how or who is going to make that happend.
2) How likely is it that more "insurgents" are murdering in hospitals?
If this gets a lot of traction it will probably happen more and more by copycat terrorists. And it is for this reason that I hope it does not get too much coverage from the news/media.
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