Thank you for those links, Mrs. P.
I watched the KTVU.com video and there were, however, no bodies or body parts to be shown on the tape, but mostly debris and a pretty shallow hole without the customary length of the ditch that most downed flights leave in their path. I have seen film footage many times, on television, of the trenches in which the bodies of Nazi Holocaust victims were piled. The current news media doesn't seem to mind videotaping the bloody remains of suicide bomber victims in Iraq, so I figured there would be evidence of a pictorial nature for the "crash" of Flight 93.
From your other link:
Seven victims of the Sept. 11 United Airlines Flight 93 crash in Somerset County were positively identified over the weekend, bringing the number of identified bodies to 11.
But Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller said that additional identifications could take months. There were 44 passengers and crew members on the flight.
"We're in the process of notifying families," said Miller near the crash scene yesterday. "We're continuing the identification process as we speak."
Four bodies had been identified as of Friday.
Miller would not name the victims, or say whether they were crew or passengers, saying his "No. 1 priority" was protecting the privacy of families.
"The identifications up to now were not [based on] DNA," said Miller. "The method now will be [to use] DNA [testing]."
Most evidence from the site has been taken away, he said.
"Everything's been collected from the site that's going to be," he said.
The coroner also said he was working as hard as he could to return remains to family members.
According to what Coroner Miller said, there were remains. I stand corrected. Perhaps you will forgive me for distrusting the government and the media in light of the "intelligence failures" and obfuscations of the President and Vice President that have so predominated the news lately.
However, the film footage shown and the reports given by the news media still do not jive with each other. Which was it--did the plane crash on its own, or did the Air Force shoot it down? Rumsfeld has alluded to the flight being shot down. They've been awfully quiet about it otherwise.
If the Air Force shot it down, the appearance of the crash scene would be more plausible. Then there would probably be only debris with few objects left in large pieces. So why did the government lie about it?National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
QUOTE(excerpt from report)
The passengers continued their assault and at 10:02:23, a hijacker said, "Pull it down! Pull it down!" The hijackers remained at the controls but must have judged that the passengers were only seconds from overcoming them. The airplane headed down; the control wheel was turned hard to the right. The airplane rolled onto its back, and one of the hijackers began shouting "Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest." With the sounds of the passenger counterattack continuing, the aircraft plowed into an empty field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, at 580 miles per hour, about 20 minutes' flying time from Washington, D.C.89
Jarrah's objective was to crash his airliner into symbols of the American Republic, the Capitol or the White House. He was defeated by the alerted, unarmed passengers of United 93.
That's the official version. But here, Rumsfeld misspoke on Flight 93 being shot down
QUOTE(World Net Daily)
The Pentagon is dismissing a comment by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld regarding Flight 93 having been "shot down" over Pennsylvania, saying it was nothing more than a speaking error.
"A Pentagon spokesman insists Rumsfeld has not changed his opinion that the plane crashed as the result of an onboard struggle between passengers and terrorists," CNN reports.
Several eyewitnesses to the crash claim they saw a "military-type" plane flying around United Airlines Flight 93 when the hijacked passenger jet crashed – prompting the once-unthinkable question of whether the U.S. military shot down the plane.
Well-founded uncertainty as to just what happened to Flight 93 is nothing new. Just three days after the worst terrorist attack in American history, on Sept. 14, 2001, The (Bergen County, N.J.) Record newspaper reported that five eyewitnesses reported seeing a second plane at the Flight 93 crash site.
That same day, reported the Record, FBI Special Agent William Crowley said investigators could not rule out that a second plane was nearby during the crash. He later said he had misspoken, dismissing rumors that a U.S. military jet had intercepted the plane before it could strike a target in Washington, D.C.
Although government officials insist there was never any pursuit of Flight 93, they were informed the flight was suspected of having been hijacked at 9:16 am, fully 50 minutes before the plane came down. [emphases mine]
Seems to have been a lot of "misspeaking" going on...
---------------------------------------------But back to Zacarias Moussaoui and the death penalty:
Alice Hoagland, mother of one of the victims listed as having been on Flight 93, stated regarding a death sentence for this condemned man:
Let us be better than he [Moussaoui] is. Let us demonstrate that we can transcend the hatred that he shows toward us.
This is a noble woman who is practical. She stated earlier in the interview that she knows Moussaoui would like nothing better than to die what he perceives to be a martyr's death. Rotting in a prison cell would be considerably less glamorous after a short time, nearly unbearable after a few years.
I also noticed that, when questioned about listening to the entire Flight 93 tape, Ms. Hoagland stated:
Well, I have heard the entire tape that the FBI chose to let us listen to. It seems to differ from what the 9/11 Commission heard...
Our law enforcement has done a bungling job.
Again, more secrecy, for what reason? I wish government leaders would stop treating us as if we can't handle the facts. I'll tell you--it's a lot easier to handle hearing the truth from the authorities than to try to glean it from other sources.
And yes, there will always be other sources eager to fill in the gaps. And sometimes the truth (if not the whole
truth) is stumbled upon by those other sources.(I would invite you to view the Google video link, "Loose Change," in my previous post. Perhaps you might understand why I take a dim view of the explanations and scanty "evidence" that the government allowed the news media to show.)