I came across this story the other day and it is really bizarre but at the same time I thought it would encourage an interesting debate.

A recent custody battle occurred between the parent's of the neo-Nazi tweens. Prussian Blue.

The father claimed that the mother's belief system, she is a self proclaimed and white supremacist, was damaging to the children's well being. The judge disagreed and allowed the mother to retain custody of the two girls.

Custody Battle Over White Separatist Twins


Do you believe it would be right for the govt. to base the decision of a person's parental rights on their belief system?

It's a tough question to answer in the abstract, because it's nearly impossible to think of all hypothetical cases that can come up. But in this particular case, it's hard for me to see the father's argument that the beliefs themselves would damage the children's well-being. Is there objective scientific evidence that white-supremacist views harm a child's development? Maybe if they were growing up in a racially mixed community there could be an argument for that, but if it was an all-white community, I don't think it would wash.

This of course is a completely separate question of whether it's a good for society as a whole when such views get passed on to the next generation. It clearly isn't, but I don't think questions like that are properly within the purview of a custody court.

Do you believe it would be right for the govt. to base the decision of a person's parental rights on their belief system?

What an ugly story. Personally, I believe it should be a capital crime to fill a child with hateful propaganda (Hitler happy face t-shirts?!? ), but unfortunately, it isn’t. Sadly, if one were to base a legal decision based on beliefs, it would open a huge can of worms when it came to religions and cultural customs. These girls aren’t being physically abused, and though a sharp lawyer might be able to make a thin case for mental and emotional abuse, these girls are of an age where they should be able to think for themselves. (Unfortunately, having been filled with hate propaganda since birth, I doubt they know how.)

In a word, disgusting, and I feel for the father. Whatever his past sins, they pale in comparison to what this “mother” has done to her daughters.

This is one of those sad situations where we have to allow people who have evil ideas to pass those ideas along to their children. The only time that government should step in is when a belief system is shown to be causing direct harm to dependent children. (For example, the small number of extreme Christian Scientists who allow their children to die from disorders which could easily be treated medically.)

It might be argued that the two children in this case are suffering direct harm in the form of the way their minds have been poisoned. However, opinions alone, no matter how loathsome, can never be enough justification for government action of this type. (If "Prussian Blue" ever goes beyond singing in celebration of hate, and begins to do harm against others, then law enforcement must step in when appropriate.)

Our only hope is that these two young girls will grow up in a society which proves to them that their ideology is wrong.

Do you believe it would be right for the govt. to base the decision of a person's parental rights on their belief system?

Obviously, the well-being of these two kids is fine. They've got a couple of CD's, they're doing well in school. They just happen to be hate-mongers whose well-being is fine. The government has to base its decision on what is in the best interests of the child... political opinions aside, it is in their best interest to be with their mother. I hate to be siding with the racist family here, but it seems I must.

So, to answer the question, if that is the only thing wrong then no I don't thing the government would be right. Unless the belief system is causing harm to the children, they should stay out of it. But these girls, again, are getting awards for scholastic excellence, they seem to be happy doing what they're doing. (It must be noted that I am currently holding back the bile as I write this). So, they stay with their mother.

And I took a listen to their music.... eh... pretty amateurish and not very interesting. They may have potential at some point as musicians, but they've got a long way to go – and as human beings, they've got a long way to come.

Do you believe it would be right for the govt. to base the decision of a person's parental rights on their belief system?

No interference at all. Very sorry for both of these girls who will someday bear the brunt of their mother's decision. Hopefully it doesn't leave them dead.
as repugnant as racists are you cannot let the govt decide anything about this. I am sure there are enough save the worlders who will rant about "It would be democracy in action" in their support of allowing it, but it just leads to trouble. A christian sect here, a few muslims there--"he doesn't beleive in global warming" from the global warmmongers.

can you not see the grease on the grassy knoll?

As disgusting and misguided their political views are, the government shouldn't take away the kids due to the mother's misguided mindset. Unless the group advocated violence towards others or themselves, then the mother should get her due custody rights. The father should too as long as he can mind his temper and he's showing that he's working on that. The farthest I would go to correcting that mindset if I were a judge, would be to require the girls to attend public school or to attend cultural events. With more interaction among others, views like theirs can be tempered or stamped out entirely.

Do you believe it would be right for the govt. to base the decision of a person's parental rights on their belief system?


As long as the parent continues to act within the law and does not directly harm the child then they are still, unfortunately in this case, entitled to custody. However is I were social services or any such organisation I would keep careful watch to ensure that the children were not being harmed.

But no, it is not right for the government or courts to base the decision upon the belief systems of the parents. Sadly in this case.