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QUOTE(inventor @ Oct 28 2006, 12:44 PM) *

Geeee would you make up your mind......... you request me to stay on a centralized simple subject because many here seen to not like a lot of data, and my weighting. So I did, I kept it as simple as possible and used the publishers outcome/results as they say them word for word hoping that many here would be able to understand it when it is not me adding my weighting of any kind in. Seems mathematical weighting is too difficult of a political concept.
Dude, I understand your weighting. The 37% are people who "listen to talk shows on the radio." I asked whether your weighting included ALL of the 37%, which would include sports talk, entertainment talk, etc.

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So did as you asked and now you want to go everywhere again. Seems pointless, read the words from the summery of the research. Use their numbers.......... not my weighting systems...

Almost four in 10 U.S. adults (37%) listen to talk shows on the radio at least once a week and about three in 10 (29%) watch political or public affairs TV shows at least once a week.


Let me try again. You did some weighting, as you mentioned above:
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I did a further calculation by taking their numbers on how many times a person watches either source a month and doing an extrapolation of assigning number for a person who says they watch less than one time a month a .5 average shows per month and a 2 for someone who says less than once a week but more than once a month, a 6 for once or twice a week, and a 15 for 3 times a week or more. The higher one could potentially be much higher because if it includes people like me who listen to political on the radio while working that number is way more skewed. But for my argument it would only make it stronger. So with weighting these and multiplying through the percentages it comes out that radio has about 25%-30% more sessions from my weighting.


BEFORE YOU DID THE WEIGHTING - did you include 100% of the 37%. Yes or no.
In other words, what is X in the simple equation below?

% who listen to "talk shows on the radio"
Harris Poll - - - - - - -inventor
- -37% - - - - - - - - - - -37%

% who get their POLITICAL INFORMATION from "talk shows on the radio"
Harris Poll - - - - - - - inventor
didn't say - - - - - - - - -X%
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ConservPat
I've got some more data, as if that will matter.

Courtesy of yahoo: link

From the article:
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Increasing numbers of people looking for political news are going online — with more than a third now saying they check the Internet for such information. That group is more likely to be younger, better educated and male than the population in general, an Associated Press-AOL News poll found.


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While 35 percent say they go to the Internet for political updates about campaigns and candidates, that number grows to 43 percent of likely voters — and they tend to be more liberal than conservative.


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The poll found that four in 10 men search the Web for political news compared to three in 10 women. About four in 10 of those under age 50 search the Web for political news, compared with fewer than two in 10 of those 65 and over. And more than half of those with college degrees look to the Web for politics, compared with a third of those who have some college and fewer than one in six with a high school education or less.


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While the online browsers go to a wide variety of sites, they overwhelmingly trust what they see on the news sites.


On edit: On the off-chance that you respond to this, 35% of American get political information from online news sources, 37% listen to talk shows. It is a safe assumption that more than 2% of Americans listen to talk shows that are not news-oriented, therefore, I can say with 100% confidence [according to these and the Harris numbers] that more people get POLITICAL/NEWS information from the internet than radio...which would mean that radio is not the main form of news/information.

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inventor
QUOTE(The Founders Intent @ Oct 28 2006, 08:51 PM) *

What is the point of this thread? Your question would imply that liberals don't listen to the news or that they only listen to conservative news. Does that make sense?
Ok let me try by looking at the opposite you imply if that is not true.
Your question could imply the opposite is true, that conservatives don't listen to the news or that they only listen to liberal news. Does that make sense?

But that is the righty propaganda out there that the media is "ALL Liberal" news... it has been the righty lie for all years.. Why do they do it... It energises their wacko base. Just as flag protester energizes the righty wacko base so does the victim cry of the liberal media bias.

do you agree it is an implied statement by those on the right that the MSM is far overwhelming liberal?

Can you find credible liberals who say it is. If you read in this thread there is a cited source of a person who was at CBS media and claims to be a liberal, ie Bernie Goldberg, he wrote a book. In an interview I found a quote by him stating that of the 200 or so people he asked in the media all disagree with him. So industry insiders it is 200 to 1, him. Not that I believe any of Goldberg's numbers he is so un-factual. And I posted there is no way Bernie is a liberal as he claims, if you read one of his next books or publications he lists the things bad for america, the overwhelming bad in his eyes are liberals. So him saying he is a liberal is a way to sell more books, he is just liar. He claimed/inferred he was fired for his cries of media bias, which was found to be a lie, he quit. So why believe a person who lies right out of the gate on a important principle.

Ever read the book written by a top righty of his day in the media, he worked and wrote for all the righty liar media like Washington times, Rev Moon, Richard Mellon Scaife (the guy who inherited his money from the mellons and funded the Paula Jones lawsuit and her nose job) the spectator, review and so on he was buddies with top republicans with supreme court justices, Rush quoted him constantly, and so did all the righty rags. Read 'Blinded by the Right" Here we have a top righty hit man gets a conscience. He spills the beans on righty lies and the media. At least he did it before he was with terminal cancer like the righty Lee Atwater. Lee, once he was dying tried to right his severe wrongs of his life and wanted and tried to apologize to democrats he wronged... these people would not give him forgiveness... I bet lee is in a hot place where he deserves to be.

In this thread I am pointing out that a more empirical was can be viewed to attack this wrong contention that somehow we are victims of liberal media as those on the right state as a matter of fact. yet there are no facts from those. The reason some her are getting so upset is the fact that if this is true 4 out of ten radio vs 3 out of 10 TV they can not effective continue telling the lie about the liberal media as radio os so overwhelmingly partisan right. That it is so overwhelmingly partisan right is not really disputed here.

And I can also point out that we can not find any examples of such levels of overwhelmingly partisanship on TV where there would be agreement. (other than fox and CNN; on CNN they have righty partisans like Zahn, dobbs, King, Cafferty, Grace, Kagan (dated rush) and so on) This agreement of partisans on TV is difficult because on another forum last week a righty claims to me Oriely is not a conservative, he is liberal. tooooooooo funny

So are you understanding the point of the thread now?
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