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The Founders Intent
Hi, I just joined but have been on many debate forums.

The Founders Intent us.gif
age: 47
profession: engineer
location: Virginia
politics: conservative and Constitutional purist (virtually)
OIF/OEF: pro
dislikes:
  • liars
  • BSers
  • liberal mindset
  • US flag burners
  • back-seat "Americans"
  • terrorists
  • America haters
  • socialists
  • there are more, but enough for now.....
likes:
  • strawberry ice cream
  • pretty girls
  • good beer
  • honesty
  • cars

My parents are German immigrants who knew almost no english, blue collar, worked hard, played by the rules and are comfortably retired. They received no hand-outs, dual-language forms, interpretters, guest-worker freebies, liberal support or promises of an easy life. I have no sympathy for illegal cheaters who steal from the American taxpayer.
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Amlord
Welcome aboard, The Founders Intent.

I hope you find our debate forum useful and informative.

(Make sure you review the Rules before posting.)

I'm looking forward to hearing your views. flowers.gif
Christopher
So what exactly is a backseat American?
would that be anyone who disagrees with you? ph34r.gif

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I have no sympathy for illegal cheaters who steal from the American taxpayer.

So you're not a member of the GOP or the DNC..... libertarian perhaps

Welcome to America's Debate.



Fife and Drum
Welcome aboard!

QUOTE( The Founders Intent)
location: Virginia

Quite possibly the most beautiful state in the Union. With your interest in history and living in Virginia are you a Civil war buff?
BoF
QUOTE(The Founders Intent @ Aug 30 2006, 07:58 AM) *

dislikes:
  • liars
  • BSers
  • liberal mindset
  • US flag burners
  • back-seat "Americans"
  • terrorists
  • America haters
  • socialists
  • there are more, but enough for now.....
likes:
  • strawberry ice cream
  • pretty girls
  • good beer
  • honesty
  • cars


Welcome. smile.gif to ad.gif

You have a shorter list of "positives" and a longer list of "negatives." sad.gif My guess is that you are more passionate about the dislikes.

Don't worry. As a group, I am sure we can accommodate everything on both lists. tongue.gif
entspeak
QUOTE(BoF @ Sep 4 2006, 12:32 PM) *

As a group, I am sure we can accommodate everything on both lists. tongue.gif


Excellent! shifty.gif And the ice cream is kept... where? happy.gif
BoF
QUOTE(entspeak @ Sep 4 2006, 01:50 PM) *
Excellent! shifty.gif And the ice cream is kept... where? happy.gif


Here's a link: biggrin.gif

http://www.bluebell.com/about_visiting.htm

Bluebell ice cream is made in Brenham, Texas. If it is not available in Virginia, TFI can dream about it until he has a chance to visit Texas. thumbsup.gif
BoF
One of the nice things about the introductions page is that it gives us the opportunity to ask the person who introduces themselves questions.

When you first came on the board, I had high hopes. The lofty screen name, The Founders Intent and the admonition in the signature line to study history promised depth. My first thought was that this is a worthy opponent who has read widely and deeply in the words and lives of the founders.

Unfortunately, I have seen none of this in your posts. Rather we get posts, such as this one linking us to a rumor on the Drudge Report and an effort to modify the questions in Christopher’s original thread on political fall-out in the aftermath of Foley’s resignation.

QUOTE(The Founders Intent @ Oct 4 2006, 08:07 PM) *

LATE BREAKING NEWS: The page was 18 years old when he chatted with Rep. Foley online. ABC News was incorrect in reporting the boy was under 18. Though still morally wrong, IMHO, there is no longer a legal issue. Additional question for the thread: Did the Democrats know this latest fact prior to ABC breaking the news? If so, what should be done?


http://www.americasdebate.com/forums/index...st&p=197810

I hope this doesn’t come off as unkind, but just out of curiosity, what primary sources have you read of the founders, The Federalist Papers Poor Richard, Franklin’s autobiography or the letters exchanged between John, and at times Abigail Adams, and Thomas Jefferson? What Great definitive biographies of George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and Benjamin Franklin, to name a few, have you read?

If you indeed have deep understanding of the founders, why aren’t you sharing it with us?

What does OIF/OEF: pro mean?
The Founders Intent
QUOTE(BoF @ Oct 5 2006, 05:07 PM) *
One of the nice things about the introductions page is that it gives us the opportunity to ask the person who introduces themselves questions.

When you first came on the board, I had high hopes. The lofty screen name, The Founders Intent and the admonition in the signature line to study history promised depth. My first thought was that this is a worthy opponent who has read widely and deeply in the words and lives of the founders.

Unfortunately, I have seen none of this in your posts. Rather we get posts, such as this one linking us to a rumor on the Drudge Report and an effort to modify the questions in Christopher's original thread on political fall-out in the aftermath of Foley's resignation.

QUOTE(The Founders Intent @ Oct 4 2006, 08:07 PM) *

LATE BREAKING NEWS: The page was 18 years old when he chatted with Rep. Foley online. ABC News was incorrect in reporting the boy was under 18. Though still morally wrong, IMHO, there is no longer a legal issue. Additional question for the thread: Did the Democrats know this latest fact prior to ABC breaking the news? If so, what should be done?


http://www.americasdebate.com/forums/index...st&p=197810

I hope this doesn't come off as unkind, but just out of curiosity, what primary sources have you read of the founders, The Federalist Papers Poor Richard, Franklin's autobiography or the letters exchanged between John, and at times Abigail Adams, and Thomas Jefferson? What Great definitive biographies of George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and Benjamin Franklin, to name a few, have you read?

If you indeed have deep understanding of the founders, why aren't you sharing it with us?

What does OIF/OEF: pro mean?
Sorry, I didn't realize anyone really paid that much attention this thread. Here's my reading list:

"John Adams" by David McCullough
"Treason" by Ann Coulter
"The Way Things Ought To Be" and "See I Told You So" by Rush Limbaugh
"Steel My Soldiers" By COL David Hackworth
"Moneyball" by Michael Lewis
"To Renew America" by Newt Gingrich
"Our Country's Founders" by William Bennett
"The Moral Compass" by William Bennett
"Off With Their Heads" by Dick Morris
"The Path To Victory" by Donald Vandergriff
"Year of the Rat" by Edward Timperlake & William C. Triplett II
"Breakdown" (9/11) by Bill Gertz
"Fighting Terrorism" by Benjamin Netanyahu
"Benjamin Franklin: An American Life" by Walter Isaacson
"Weaving the Web" by Tim Berners-Lee
"Alexander Hamilton" by Ron Chernow
"Hunting Down Saddam" by Robin Moore
"Sacred Secrets - How Russian Intelligence Operations Changed American History" by Jerrold & Leona Schecter
"In the Company of Heroes" by Michael J. Durant
"I Have A Dream - Writings & Speeches" by Martin Luther King Jr. {Edited by James M. Washington}
"Black Hawk Down - A Story of Modern War" by Mark Bowden
"America: The Last Best Hope (Volume I)" by William Bennett
"Strategery" by Bill Sammon
"Without Precedent: The Inside Story of the 9/11 Commission" by Thomas H. Kean & Lee H. Hamilton

I'm basically a conservative, and I make no apology about that. I'm sorry you've been disappointed in my posts, but I've been equally disappointed in many of the threads. It's not much use to debate about thread quality since it's up to the initiator, but many are obviously quite partisan and at the same time just scrape past the rules with only a veil of intellectual honesty. Don't ask for examples, because we all know them when we see them. Anyway, the last four books on the list are in various states of completion since I tend to have several books going on at once. I started a thick book on Churchill once by a British author, but I just couldn't get through it. The writing style just wasn't tolerable to me. I'm still working on the Hamilton biography.

OIF means Operation Iraqi Freedom and OEF means Operation Enduring Freedom. As far as the Foley case, that thread was purely partisan and I treated as such. I can't make a purse out of a sow's ear. Start a thread in an unbiased manner, and you get debate as intended by the site founders; start a partisan thread, well don't cry when it's pushed back on your face. We're all grown up here, aren't we? You know what your intent is when starting a thread, and we will figure it out no matter what kind of sugar coating you put on it.

The Founders Intent is exactly what I mean. I don't claim to have a patent on that or that I'm all knowing, but I have no doubt about what I think their intent was and am taking the time to read up on the subject. Must I have a deep understanding of a subject before I can speak, do you? BTW, yes I do peruse the Federalist Papers, and have a paperback copy of the Anti-Federalists Papers (Cato's Letters), that I have read parts of. Politics is the same today as it was then, only then I believe the politicians were more well-read then those of today. There are no Madisons, Adams', Hamiltons, Masons, Morris' or Jeffersons today (and we could go on); not even close in my opinion. We could discuss their personal flaws all day long, but when it comes to their knowledge of history, law, philosophy, government and politics, they were intellectual giants next what we have now. There may be a handful of Supreme Court justices who have been at that level, but I know of none that are famous. When it comes to US national politics, the first thing I ask myself is, what was the Founders intent?
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