Leave it to religiously fundmentalist and extremist me, and card carrying conservative member of the Republican Party as well, to be the only soul so far to vote that poverty was, is, and will continue to be the most pressing concern. Our apathy and lack of compassion has killed more people than global warming, WMDs, and the rest, could ever hope to kill.
And, Julian, we don't understand clouds. Given that water vapor is a far more potent greenhouse gas than CO2 could ever hope to be, well, the models are next to worthless given our ignorance re clouds. And never mind that as the so-called "butterfly effect" demonstrates, that small variation caused by that butterfly flapping its wings in Brazil effects the entire system and so our weather forecasts are rather unreliable outside of a rather short window. And why a problem with water? There should be more water with more heat, I mean, clouds only hold so much vapor, then it must rain. And that's why, as I've related before on that other thread, where it is hot at the edges, say Greenland, it snows more in the interior. CO2 should otherwise agricultural production, since increased CO2 provides increased aerial fertilization. Hence that sound advice to do your plants some good by speaking to them [thereby exhaling CO2 in their general direction] One last point on this matter, accurate prediction from models is one thing, while reality is another. Simply consider Ptolemy's model and retrograde motion [so the model can provide great predictions but be physically wrong]. Sorry, one more. Compare your comment re malaria with my remarks above. Who gets malaria? The rich and developed, or the poor and underdeveloped? And so we care about global warming giving us malaria [as it were], but don't seem to give two hoots about the children, more than I care to contemplate, who are already dying from malaria each and every year. As our friends at wrongdiagnosis.com report:
"Each year, 300 to 500 million people develop malaria and 1.5 to 3 million–mostly children–die, according to the World Health Organization (WHO). (Source: excerpt from Malaria, NIAID Fact Sheet: NIAID)"In a century, a brief moment in our history, and that's, on the low side, 1,500,000 x 100 = 150,000,000 humans dead from malaria. I'd call that a holocaust. And as you can read here re the experience in India, the various parasites that cause malaria are indeed a rather formidable opponent:
http://www.malariasite.com/malaria/MalariaInIndia.htmAnd, Carlitoswhey, religious extremism? Does socialism count as such? I mean, while history teaches us that religious extremism has wreaked more than its fair share of havoc on humans, last century it wasn't religious extremism but the socialism of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, Mao's China, and Democratic Kampuchea that killed the most [beating the religious extremists in a rout]. Might I simply ask you what the religious extremists have in common with those who ran the regimes in question? That's the danger.
And, gordo, poverty explains pollution in the so-called "Third World" [i.e., when it is immediate survival versus years down the road, cut down that forest, dump whatever wherever convenient, etc.].
Lastly, sevac, as you can see, I believe that one of our problems is the cause of some others.