Double standards? What about no standards?

The word "nigger" is NOT "just a word." It's the worst word a White person can throw at a Black person. It comes as absolutely no surprise that as far as lordhelmet is concerned the slur has no value.

But in any argument between Whites and Blacks, the "N" word remains the ace-in-the-hole for the White person. They can play the "N" card, throw it in someone's face and stop the conversation dead. A moron like Michael Richards called the Black hecklers "niggers" because he KNEW that was his trump card. There is no racial retort of equal power.

As far as those "disavantaged guys" demanding Richards throw in some cash to compensate them, so what?
Money is how we keep score in this country. An insincere apology from a fool like Richards means nothing.

And why do you presume LH that the Black patrons Richards insulted probably call each other "nigger" daily? What do you base that on besides your vast ignorance of Black culture?



Now you know what it feels like for a Black kid bussed to a White school. Being called "nigger" by groups of White thugs, being treated like a social leper and just generally isolated and alone.

Glad to see your youthful traumas haven't warped your perspective on race.

Why would I be offended? Because it is an offensive word.

It's offensive when Richards uses it to attack his hecklers (he chose his terms for maximum impact) and it's EQUALLY offensive when black people refer to each other that way.

My way of thinking reflects "equality".

On the other hand, we have people who find extreme resentment ONLY when a "white" person uses that word to a "black" person. One wonders if they believe that assault or even homicide would be justified by a "black" person called that word by a "white" person.

But then that would get into a legal discussion of what a "black" vs a "white" person even was. And since there is no legitimate biological definition of "black" or "white", the entire race-based worldview might be called into question and exposed for the bogus hype that it most certainly is. I mean, if Richards was heckled by Tiger Woods, what slur should he pick? Doesn't anyone see where this mindset leads?

What Richards said was certainly offensive. But, at the end of the day, it was just a WORD.

It find it less offensive for Richards to say ANY word to ANY person than an assault, a rape, a homicide, or even a property crime.

Word have meanings but they are not, in spite of the ranting in here, the same as "actions".

I caught this on the news too. Kinda makes yah wonder who was pimping who, doesn't it. On another level of hell, some people find cold cash to be soothing to their wretched little souls.

I've just gone to zero tolerance, of poppycock (which is a nice way of saying the other thing that attracts strikes and flies).

I guess we can still criticize Richards for having walked into the trap. He should have known better.

There is a Biblical observation (Matt 12:34) that describes Richards' tirade. "From the overflow (abundance) of the heart the mouth speaks." In the pressure cooker of performance we saw the real Richards.

I am reminded of the commercial for Roach Motel. Richards entered, but he will not return to pre-"N" word status.

Do you hold Jesse Jackson and his "hymie town" comment to the same standard?

Should Jackson be condemned as an anti-semite now and for all time?

WOW! What a typical LH tactic. Blame someone else.

Is there anyway you can work Bill Clinton into this equation?

As far as your questions go, I'll let you lie awake nights pondering the answer. It is, however, interesting that Richards has called upon Jesse Jackson to bail him out.

http://shadmia.wordpress.com/tag/jesse-jackson/

Comedian, actor and author John Leguizamo said the biggest boner Michael Richards pulled was his total incompetence in handling the heckling. Every comedian that has ever taken the stage has had to deal with a smart-aleck patron. Somehow most of them managed to do so without dropping "N" bombs all over the place.

If any good comes out of this farce maybe this will be it.

Black Leaders Seek End to Use of Slur
Nov 27, 5:37 PM EST

The Associated Press

LOS ANGELES -- Black leaders on Monday challenged the entertainment industry, including rappers, to stop use of the racial slur that Michael Richards uttered in his tirade.

The Rev. Jesse Jackson and others said they will meet with TV networks, film companies and musicians to discuss the "n-word."

"We want to give our ancestors a present," Jackson said at a news conference. "Dignity over degradation."

http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=243215

No word on whether Jackson would also call for a ban on the slurs "Hymietown" and "San Francisco values."

I'm not "blaming someone else". I'm pointing out hypocricy. And you didn't answer my question. Should Jesse Jackson be ostracised for using a blatant anti-semitic slur?

Bill Clinton? He's not relevant to this thread. However, if we get into a thread that discusses prior inept responses to terrorism, sexual harassment on the job, perjury, or charisma over substance, I'm sure his name will be brought up at some point.

And, I'm glad to see that the NAACP agrees with MY position on this issue. It's good to see the someone "gets it" once in a while.

No, you are desperately trying to bring irrelevancies into the topic in order to avoid having to deal with previous posts or answer questions. However, in the name of good grace, I will address your 'point'

Jessie Jackson WAS ostracised for his slur, he was dragged acros the coals for weeks in the national media. So your point is completely irrelevant. Even after his public mea culpa and apology in a synagogue, he was still vilified for it for quite some time to come. It is also worth mentioning that this all happened 22 years ago...

Furthermore, even if the above were NOT true, how on earth would it be 'pointing out hypocricy' to bring up an event that happened over two decades ago and had not been mentioned by anyone in the thread at this point? Even if your point were relevant, your contention still makes no sense.



Oh, but here is an interesting point for you. Hymie was the name of a robot character on the TV show 'Get Smart'. Since both the actor who played him (Richard Gautier) and the show's star (Don Adams) were Jewish, (As were the show's creators, Mel Brooks and Buck Henry) that means that two Jews used the word 'Hymie' between themselves.

Since it has been your contention in this thread that there is NO SUCH THING as differing context for hateful words, that must mean that according to you, NO JEW is EVER allowed to be upset about the use of the word 'Hymie', because at one point, in one context, two jews used it between themselves harmlessly... right?

That is your whole point, isn't it?