Full Version: The President of Iran writes to the American people
I advise you to read this entire letter from Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to the American people. It's very interesting, and I think it offers such real insights into the man and his nation.
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What most troubles me about this letter is that some of what Ahmadinejad says contains a grain of truth.
Now this is overstated and exaggerated, of course, but it cannot be denied that many American citizens do not fully approve of all the actions taken by their government in the struggle against terrorism. It is also true that this is a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black, and that Iran has an oppressive system of goverment. In addition to all this, Ahmadinejad's ravings against "the Zionists", in this letter and in previous statements, undermines the validity of anything he might have to say. This section of the letter, in particular, reads like classic anti-Semitism:
This is the old "Jews control Hollywood and the banks" nonsense that we have heard so often.
It troubles me that I am not in a position to completely reject everything Ahmadinejad has to say about the actions of the American government. The obvious fact that many worse things could be said about the government of Iran is a poor defense, at best.
To be debated:
1. Is there anything that Americans can learn from this letter?
2. If you could communicate directly with the President of Iran, how would you respond to this letter?
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What most troubles me about this letter is that some of what Ahmadinejad says contains a grain of truth.
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You have heard that the US administration is kidnapping its presumed opponents from across the globe and arbitrarily holding them without trial or any international supervision in horrendous prisons that it has established in various parts of the world. God knows who these detainees actually are, and what terrible fate awaits them.
You have certainly heard the sad stories of the Guantanamo and Abu-Ghraib prisons. The US administration attempts to justify them through its proclaimed "war on terror." But every one knows that such behavior, in fact, offends global public opinion, exacerbates resentment and thereby spreads terrorism, and tarnishes the US image and its credibility among nations.
The US administration's illegal and immoral behavior is not even confined to outside its borders. You are witnessing daily that under the pretext of "the war on terror," civil liberties in the United States are being increasingly curtailed. Even the privacy of individuals is fast losing its meaning. Judicial due process and fundamental rights are trampled upon. Private phones are tapped, suspects are arbitrarily arrested, sometimes beaten in the streets, or even shot to death.
I have no doubt that the American people do not approve of this behavior and indeed deplore it.
You have certainly heard the sad stories of the Guantanamo and Abu-Ghraib prisons. The US administration attempts to justify them through its proclaimed "war on terror." But every one knows that such behavior, in fact, offends global public opinion, exacerbates resentment and thereby spreads terrorism, and tarnishes the US image and its credibility among nations.
The US administration's illegal and immoral behavior is not even confined to outside its borders. You are witnessing daily that under the pretext of "the war on terror," civil liberties in the United States are being increasingly curtailed. Even the privacy of individuals is fast losing its meaning. Judicial due process and fundamental rights are trampled upon. Private phones are tapped, suspects are arbitrarily arrested, sometimes beaten in the streets, or even shot to death.
I have no doubt that the American people do not approve of this behavior and indeed deplore it.
Now this is overstated and exaggerated, of course, but it cannot be denied that many American citizens do not fully approve of all the actions taken by their government in the struggle against terrorism. It is also true that this is a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black, and that Iran has an oppressive system of goverment. In addition to all this, Ahmadinejad's ravings against "the Zionists", in this letter and in previous statements, undermines the validity of anything he might have to say. This section of the letter, in particular, reads like classic anti-Semitism:
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What have the Zionists done for the American people that the US administration considers itself obliged to blindly support these infamous aggressors? Is it not because they have imposed themselves on a substantial portion of the banking, financial, cultural and media sectors?
This is the old "Jews control Hollywood and the banks" nonsense that we have heard so often.
It troubles me that I am not in a position to completely reject everything Ahmadinejad has to say about the actions of the American government. The obvious fact that many worse things could be said about the government of Iran is a poor defense, at best.
To be debated:
1. Is there anything that Americans can learn from this letter?
2. If you could communicate directly with the President of Iran, how would you respond to this letter?
1. Is there anything that Americans can learn from this letter?
Yes, we can. We can learn that a tyrannic despot is also capable of parroting in a very intellectual, sophisticated, and endearing way what a percentage of the US population has been saying all along. Lets see, I believe this would be considered in sales as "going to your warm market". In other words, it's called wining the war of public opinion. The letter confirms for me my belief that, regardless of whether I may or may not agree with anything said by Ahmadinejad, the man is a charlatan who will make use of any deception to gain the upper hand.
2. If you could communicate directly with the President of Iran, how would you respond to this letter?
I would probably not consider it worthy of a response. I'm looking for action not lofty ideals spoken by a man who obviously could care less for those same ideals he feigns caring about.
Yes, we can. We can learn that a tyrannic despot is also capable of parroting in a very intellectual, sophisticated, and endearing way what a percentage of the US population has been saying all along. Lets see, I believe this would be considered in sales as "going to your warm market". In other words, it's called wining the war of public opinion. The letter confirms for me my belief that, regardless of whether I may or may not agree with anything said by Ahmadinejad, the man is a charlatan who will make use of any deception to gain the upper hand.
2. If you could communicate directly with the President of Iran, how would you respond to this letter?
I would probably not consider it worthy of a response. I'm looking for action not lofty ideals spoken by a man who obviously could care less for those same ideals he feigns caring about.
1. Is there anything that Americans can learn from this letter?
I truly doubt the person in question wrote the letter actually. I would say that he or them or whatever is on the ball in some regards as to the dismay over the current portrait of the war on terror and what that has become. I mean this guy is against so much of what we support with actions, be it money or other forms, that I doubt he could care so much about what we think in any form of a caring sense, or desire to nurture us in some right direction past serving of course whatever he may think is right, which obviously is some repressive and brutal theocracy of an existence where some people are human and others are not. To me the middle east or what I saw of it is a place of barb wire fences where something is always burning, religion rules everything and well life is second to the ideology, at least that’s my take on it, such is I think the conservative dream ultimately, some gold plated slow death stuck to the end of an exhaust pipe.
2. If you could communicate directly with the President of Iran, how would you respond to this letter?
One, I would simply ask for in detail what’s up with all the hate, towards anything really, just not worded like such.
I truly doubt the person in question wrote the letter actually. I would say that he or them or whatever is on the ball in some regards as to the dismay over the current portrait of the war on terror and what that has become. I mean this guy is against so much of what we support with actions, be it money or other forms, that I doubt he could care so much about what we think in any form of a caring sense, or desire to nurture us in some right direction past serving of course whatever he may think is right, which obviously is some repressive and brutal theocracy of an existence where some people are human and others are not. To me the middle east or what I saw of it is a place of barb wire fences where something is always burning, religion rules everything and well life is second to the ideology, at least that’s my take on it, such is I think the conservative dream ultimately, some gold plated slow death stuck to the end of an exhaust pipe.
2. If you could communicate directly with the President of Iran, how would you respond to this letter?
One, I would simply ask for in detail what’s up with all the hate, towards anything really, just not worded like such.
1. Is there anything that Americans can learn from this letter?
This is classic. When I read this letter yesterday, I thought exactly what Victoria alluded to : "Who are you calling black, Mr. Pot? I'm just a simple kettle."
I love the way he butters people up by his continuous compliments. Great stuff there. I love his reference to "divine Providence". He must have been reading our founding documents.
This is also the classic tactic of the tyrannical leader: use of half truths and out of context truths to make a point. The propaganda is simply awesome:
How can one disagree with what he is saying. Leading off the letter in this way makes his coming message more palatable.
But he doesn't even get off of page one before he starts with his anti-Israel rant:
People being beaten or shot in the streets of the US in the name of the WoT? Where?
The US is the credibility of the UN and its Security Council. The fact that the UN does nothing about Darfur is a disgrace. Libya's election to the UN Human Rights Commission chair (in 2003) undermines its credibility. Even the BBC calls it "a bad joke." Of course, the new Human Rights Council is arguably worse. But that's the UN for you. The UNHRC has addressed one nation since its inception: Israel. Nothing about any other human rights abusers. A bad joke indeed.
Ahmadinejad returns to his anti-Zionist agenda before concluding:
(Did he steal that from a poster on
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So... Israel out of Palestine and US forces out of Iraq. It's a win-win for everybody!!
2. If you could communicate directly with the President of Iran, how would you respond to this letter?
I'd laugh in his distorted propaganda-spreading face, if I didn't think he would have me stoned to death (or worse). The guy is a complete hypocrite. He might want to stop killing off ethnic Iranians after secret trials before coming here and accusing us. Iran: Halt Execution of Ethnic Arabs After Secret Trial
This is classic. When I read this letter yesterday, I thought exactly what Victoria alluded to : "Who are you calling black, Mr. Pot? I'm just a simple kettle."
I love the way he butters people up by his continuous compliments. Great stuff there. I love his reference to "divine Providence". He must have been reading our founding documents.
This is also the classic tactic of the tyrannical leader: use of half truths and out of context truths to make a point. The propaganda is simply awesome:
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Both greatly value and readily embrace the promotion of human ideals such as compassion, empathy, respect for the rights of human beings, securing justice and equity, and defending the innocent and the weak against oppressors and bullies.
We are all inclined towards the good, and towards extending a helping hand to one another, particularly to those in need.
We all deplore injustice, the trampling of peoples' rights and the intimidation and humiliation of human beings.
We all detest darkness, deceit, lies and distortion, and seek and admire salvation, enlightenment, sincerity and honesty.
We are all inclined towards the good, and towards extending a helping hand to one another, particularly to those in need.
We all deplore injustice, the trampling of peoples' rights and the intimidation and humiliation of human beings.
We all detest darkness, deceit, lies and distortion, and seek and admire salvation, enlightenment, sincerity and honesty.
How can one disagree with what he is saying. Leading off the letter in this way makes his coming message more palatable.
But he doesn't even get off of page one before he starts with his anti-Israel rant:
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We, like you, are aggrieved by the ever-worsening pain and misery of the Palestinian people. Persistent aggressions by the Zionists are making life more and more difficult for the rightful owners of the land of Palestine. In broad day-light, in front of cameras and before the eyes of the world, they are bombarding innocent defenseless civilians, bulldozing houses, firing machine guns at students in the streets and alleys, and subjecting their families to endless grief.
People being beaten or shot in the streets of the US in the name of the WoT? Where?
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The US administration does not accept accountability before any organization, institution or council. The US administration has undermined the credibility of international organizations, particularly the United Nations and its Security Council.
The US is the credibility of the UN and its Security Council. The fact that the UN does nothing about Darfur is a disgrace. Libya's election to the UN Human Rights Commission chair (in 2003) undermines its credibility. Even the BBC calls it "a bad joke." Of course, the new Human Rights Council is arguably worse. But that's the UN for you. The UNHRC has addressed one nation since its inception: Israel. Nothing about any other human rights abusers. A bad joke indeed.
Ahmadinejad returns to his anti-Zionist agenda before concluding:
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What has blind support for the Zionists by the US administration brought for the American people? It is regrettable that for the US administration, the interests of these occupiers supersedes the interests of the American people and of the other nations of the world.
What have the Zionists done for the American people that the US administration considers itself obliged to blindly support these infamous aggressors? Is it not because they have imposed themselves on a substantial portion of the banking, financial, cultural and media sectors?
What have the Zionists done for the American people that the US administration considers itself obliged to blindly support these infamous aggressors? Is it not because they have imposed themselves on a substantial portion of the banking, financial, cultural and media sectors?
(Did he steal that from a poster on
? )So... Israel out of Palestine and US forces out of Iraq. It's a win-win for everybody!!
2. If you could communicate directly with the President of Iran, how would you respond to this letter?
I'd laugh in his distorted propaganda-spreading face, if I didn't think he would have me stoned to death (or worse). The guy is a complete hypocrite. He might want to stop killing off ethnic Iranians after secret trials before coming here and accusing us. Iran: Halt Execution of Ethnic Arabs After Secret Trial
QUOTE(Victoria Silverwolf @ Nov 30 2006, 06:03 AM) 
To be debated:
1. Is there anything that Americans can learn from this letter?
We can learn that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is two faced and plays off US media to try and esculate the people here against our own government.
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2. If you could communicate directly with the President of Iran, how would you respond to this letter?
I would have him watch this and then write another letter with his true feelings.
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1. Is there anything that Americans can learn from this letter?
Yeah, that politicians outside the United States are just as full of crap as politicians within the United States. I can see no logical reason to believe anything that this man says about anything and there is no reason to believe that this letter isn't just a cynical sycophantic pile of rhetoric.QUOTE
2. If you could communicate directly with the President of Iran, how would you respond to this letter?
Dear Presidents Amadidi...Abadibi...Dear President of Iran,
Americans are stupid...they aren't that stupid.
Sincerely,
ConservPat
CP
2. If you could communicate directly with the President of Iran, how would you respond to this letter?
I'd like to ask him how he reconciles his stated belief in freedom with arbitrary death threats issued by priests in his country against writers in other country's and why when this sort of injustice takes place in Iran is he so concerned with what happens in other countries...
...but given the fact that he is a clown performing for the benefit of his supporters then I do not suppose that any honest answer would be forth coming, instead I can imagine he will pontifictae about other people's faults rather than concede his/Iran's own. he is the same as Castro, Chavez and Mugabe. A two bit tyrant who has understood that in order to alleviate pressure from the west, all one need do is parrot left wing talking points and then you can get away with murder.
I'd like to ask him how he reconciles his stated belief in freedom with arbitrary death threats issued by priests in his country against writers in other country's and why when this sort of injustice takes place in Iran is he so concerned with what happens in other countries...
...but given the fact that he is a clown performing for the benefit of his supporters then I do not suppose that any honest answer would be forth coming, instead I can imagine he will pontifictae about other people's faults rather than concede his/Iran's own. he is the same as Castro, Chavez and Mugabe. A two bit tyrant who has understood that in order to alleviate pressure from the west, all one need do is parrot left wing talking points and then you can get away with murder.
I see nothing nutty about anything he's said. I've seen the same points he is making right here on AD.
I can't fathom how anyone could see the Palestinians as victims, but it's very, very common here and everywhere else. Heck, even Jimmy Carter would agree with Achmedwhateverhisnameis.
As far as the rant about Bush and Iraq, I belive the facts are on his side. And again, a fair number here will disagree.
So, to discount his letter as a rant from a nutjob would be to discount half of AD, the nation, and the world. The problem is, we don't have the moral authority to be able to make a stand against what he says any longer. We have no credibility and are represented by a proven liar and probable criminal in the White House.
And the is not change anytime soon. All our enemies and potential enemies will exploit this as best they can - just like Achmedneedsasimplername is doing.
I can't fathom how anyone could see the Palestinians as victims, but it's very, very common here and everywhere else. Heck, even Jimmy Carter would agree with Achmedwhateverhisnameis.
As far as the rant about Bush and Iraq, I belive the facts are on his side. And again, a fair number here will disagree.
So, to discount his letter as a rant from a nutjob would be to discount half of AD, the nation, and the world. The problem is, we don't have the moral authority to be able to make a stand against what he says any longer. We have no credibility and are represented by a proven liar and probable criminal in the White House.
And the is not change anytime soon. All our enemies and potential enemies will exploit this as best they can - just like Achmedneedsasimplername is doing.
QUOTE(DaytonRocker @ Nov 30 2006, 01:13 PM)
I see nothing nutty about anything he's said. I've seen the same points he is making right here on AD.
I can't fathom how anyone could see the Palestinians as victims, but it's very, very common here and everywhere else. Heck, even Jimmy Carter would agree with Achmedwhateverhisnameis.
As far as the rant about Bush and Iraq, I belive the facts are on his side. And again, a fair number here will disagree.
So, to discount his letter as a rant from a nutjob would be to discount half of AD, the nation, and the world. The problem is, we don't have the moral authority to be able to make a stand against what he says any longer. We have no credibility and are represented by a proven liar and probable criminal in the White House.
And the is not change anytime soon. All our enemies and potential enemies will exploit this as best they can - just like Achmedneedsasimplername is doing.
As I said, he does use facts and true statements. But he uses them to support arguments that are unrelated.
What's the point of the letter?
-Leave Iraq (even after he says he's glad Saddam is gone)
-Stop supporting Israel. What's this got to do with Iraq or the WoT?
But the second point isn't made with any type of connection to reality. We are controlled by the Joo media or whatever he's referring to.
Half of the world should be discounted. The disagreements on Iraq have nothing to do with us being a peace loving, "God fearing" society. Do they?
This guy's argument does not make sense. It is platitudes heaped on someone (the American public) in order to get them to agree with something completely off topic.
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What have the Zionists done for the American people that the US administration considers itself obliged to blindly support these infamous aggressors? Is it not because they have imposed themselves on a substantial portion of the banking, financial, cultural and media sectors?
Sorry, but that is nutty.
1. Is there anything that Americans can learn from this letter?
We can learn as much as the Norwegians could learn from a letter written by Bush, admonishing them for doubling their weapons' sales in the past five years or so. The points of such a letter, some valid (hey, the Norwegians have doubled their weapons sales!), some not, are simply irrelevant coming from this source.
2. If you could communicate directly with the President of Iran, how would you respond to this letter?
I would not waste my time with a response. I might tell him that those night vision goggles our soldiers are wearing are actually methods to see through women's clothing. That would give him something to include in his next letter.
We can learn as much as the Norwegians could learn from a letter written by Bush, admonishing them for doubling their weapons' sales in the past five years or so. The points of such a letter, some valid (hey, the Norwegians have doubled their weapons sales!), some not, are simply irrelevant coming from this source.
2. If you could communicate directly with the President of Iran, how would you respond to this letter?
I would not waste my time with a response. I might tell him that those night vision goggles our soldiers are wearing are actually methods to see through women's clothing. That would give him something to include in his next letter.
I find it a touch amusing when I see some people using up all their strength and energy when they stray off of their chosen path i.e. persona or personality. It's like they have to summon all their strength just to give an inch. The statement:
Troubled to hear the truth? Troubled to think that maybe, just maybe, the Iranian President isn't a pre-programmed robot manufactured to lie.
I think the man hit the nail on the head, and really, he's open minded and sees the larger picture better than most world leaders. The Holocaust summit was a great idea and it reflects a need to get to the truth, to get the whole story from different perspectives. No one should condemn anyone if they're in a pursuit for knowledge. What I think is that people in general think they know everything already so there's nothing left to learn. We all know that's impossible but yet the "fact" remains. Many areas of thought are nearly fully unexplored. That's due to the condemnation the people who ask these questions receive.
There are things to learn from everything that happens.
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What most troubles me about this letter is that some of what Ahmadinejad says contains a grain of truth.
Troubled to hear the truth? Troubled to think that maybe, just maybe, the Iranian President isn't a pre-programmed robot manufactured to lie.
I think the man hit the nail on the head, and really, he's open minded and sees the larger picture better than most world leaders. The Holocaust summit was a great idea and it reflects a need to get to the truth, to get the whole story from different perspectives. No one should condemn anyone if they're in a pursuit for knowledge. What I think is that people in general think they know everything already so there's nothing left to learn. We all know that's impossible but yet the "fact" remains. Many areas of thought are nearly fully unexplored. That's due to the condemnation the people who ask these questions receive.
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1. Is there anything that Americans can learn from this letter?
There are things to learn from everything that happens.
Open minded?....Open minded? Really, is that what you want to call him?
He's so open-minded he's called the Holocaust a "myth" and has called the statement that "Israel should be wiped off the map" wise. Sure, he's open minded, especially when it comes to religion.
I don't get it TruthMarch, that you can look at his speach and not see it as complete and utter balogna, when this man clearly has an agenda and doesn't have our best interests at heart. I don't think anyone's condemning him for seeking knowledge, we're condemning him because he's the President of Iran making an appeal to the American people, pardon our [or at least my] cynicism, but I don't find him to be very credible.
CP
He's so open-minded he's called the Holocaust a "myth" and has called the statement that "Israel should be wiped off the map" wise. Sure, he's open minded, especially when it comes to religion.
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Despite its long history in Iran, Christianity has often been seen by Islamic Republic as sympathetic to western ideals. The persecution of the Protestant churches has perhaps been more severe for this very reason. While the government guarantees the recognised Christian minorities a number of rights (production and sale of non-halal foods), guaranteed representation in parliament, special family law etc, Government intrusion, expropriation of property, forced closure and persecution, particularly in the initial years after the Iranian Revolution, have all been documented. Most prominent has been the death of Haik Hovsepian Mehr, bishop of the Jamiat-e Rabbani, in 1994. Recently the continuing imprisonment of Hamid Pourmand a lay pastor of Jammiat-e Rabboni and the murder of Ghorban Tourani, the pastor of an independent evangelical church have created international concern.
Emphasis mine.I don't get it TruthMarch, that you can look at his speach and not see it as complete and utter balogna, when this man clearly has an agenda and doesn't have our best interests at heart. I don't think anyone's condemning him for seeking knowledge, we're condemning him because he's the President of Iran making an appeal to the American people, pardon our [or at least my] cynicism, but I don't find him to be very credible.
CP
1. Is there anything that Americans can learn from this letter?
That there are crazy people running things in the Middle East? The few valid points the guy raises are completely mitigated by his utter hypocrisy in bringing them up.
2. If you could communicate directly with the President of Iran, how would you respond to this letter?
So you are concerned that we are giving up our freedoms in America? At least we don't allow religious leaders to issue death threats, at least we don't execute teenagers for who they love... We have problems in this country, problems we are working on addressing, but our biggest problem here is those who want our country to be more like yours.
That there are crazy people running things in the Middle East? The few valid points the guy raises are completely mitigated by his utter hypocrisy in bringing them up.
2. If you could communicate directly with the President of Iran, how would you respond to this letter?
So you are concerned that we are giving up our freedoms in America? At least we don't allow religious leaders to issue death threats, at least we don't execute teenagers for who they love... We have problems in this country, problems we are working on addressing, but our biggest problem here is those who want our country to be more like yours.
1. Is there anything that Americans can learn from this letter?
I fear not.
America has not learned from past messes and may not learn from these.
Most nations are a little more eclectic than Americans and may understand a little more of his reasons to send the letter because Americans see themselves as the most militarily powerful nation on earth who seek no advice but from themselves.
Iran wants Euro's for its oil, through its newly created bourse, as did Iraq and few want the ailing US Oil Dollar any more. Americans should be aware that the World is no longer in awe of America and more than a few would rather America was not an aggressive neighbour.
His message is......
A plea to leave his wealthy and contented nation alone after seeing the destruction of Iraq. The fabricated reasons then are the same threatening him now.
Russia and China are involved
2. If you could communicate directly with the President of Iran, how would you respond to this letter?
I suggest you tone down the Anti American wording. Americans find this hard to accept.
The gist of the letter is reasonable given the threat posed to your country by the Israeli/US cabal.
I may also respectably suggest you carefully ask Israel to stop pointing their nuclear missiles at you.
I fear not.
America has not learned from past messes and may not learn from these.
Most nations are a little more eclectic than Americans and may understand a little more of his reasons to send the letter because Americans see themselves as the most militarily powerful nation on earth who seek no advice but from themselves.
Iran wants Euro's for its oil, through its newly created bourse, as did Iraq and few want the ailing US Oil Dollar any more. Americans should be aware that the World is no longer in awe of America and more than a few would rather America was not an aggressive neighbour.
His message is......
A plea to leave his wealthy and contented nation alone after seeing the destruction of Iraq. The fabricated reasons then are the same threatening him now.
Russia and China are involved
2. If you could communicate directly with the President of Iran, how would you respond to this letter?
I suggest you tone down the Anti American wording. Americans find this hard to accept.
The gist of the letter is reasonable given the threat posed to your country by the Israeli/US cabal.
I may also respectably suggest you carefully ask Israel to stop pointing their nuclear missiles at you.
QUOTE(Alan Wood @ Dec 12 2006, 12:53 AM)
1. Is there anything that Americans can learn from this letter?
I fear not.
America has not learned from past messes and may not learn from these.
Most nations are a little more eclectic than Americans and may understand a little more of his reasons to send the letter because Americans see themselves as the most militarily powerful nation on earth who seek no advice but from themselves.
Iran wants Euro's for its oil, through its newly created bourse, as did Iraq and few want the ailing US Oil Dollar any more. Americans should be aware that the World is no longer in awe of America and more than a few would rather America was not an aggressive neighbour.
His message is......
A plea to leave his wealthy and contented nation alone after seeing the destruction of Iraq. The fabricated reasons then are the same threatening him now.
Russia and China are involved
2. If you could communicate directly with the President of Iran, how would you respond to this letter?
I suggest you tone down the Anti American wording. Americans find this hard to accept.
The gist of the letter is reasonable given the threat posed to your country by the Israeli/US cabal.
I may also respectably suggest you carefully ask Israel to stop pointing their nuclear missiles at you.
1) which US Isreal Cabal is that ?
make sure you know what you are saying
QUOTE("Merriam Webster")
cabal
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cabal[1,noun]cabal[2,intransitive verb]
Main Entry: 1ca·bal
Pronunciation: k&-'bäl, -'bal
Function: noun
Etymology: French cabale cabala, intrigue, cabal, from Medieval Latin cabbala cabala, from Late Hebrew qabbAlAh, literally, received (lore)
1 : the artifices and intrigues of a group of persons secretly united in a plot (as to overturn a government); also : a group engaged in such artifices and intrigues
2 : CLUB, GROUP <a cabal of artists>
synonym see PLOT
so the US and Isreal are engaged in a secret plot to do what ?
2) if the President of the US said he wanted to wipe canada off the map dont you think just maybe the canadian would be justified in ensuring a nuclear deterant?
1) which US Isreal Cabal is that ?
make sure you know what you are saying
cabal
2 entries found for cabal.
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cabal[1,noun]cabal[2,intransitive verb]
Main Entry: 1ca·bal
Pronunciation: k&-'bäl, -'bal
Function: noun
Etymology: French cabale cabala, intrigue, cabal, from Medieval Latin cabbala cabala, from Late Hebrew qabbAlAh, literally, received (lore)
1 : the artifices and intrigues of a group of persons secretly united in a plot (as to overturn a government); also : a group engaged in such artifices and intrigues
2 : CLUB, GROUP <a cabal of artists>
synonym see PLOT
Now you have effectively answered your own querie we should address the following.
so the US and Isreal are engaged in a secret plot to do what ?
I would suggest a careful, and honest look at the reasons for the Iraq invasion and apply the parallels to Iran, for who's benefit and why.
2) if the President of the US said he wanted to wipe canada off the map dont you think just maybe the canadian would be justified in ensuring a nuclear deterant?
I would hope you have read the ACTUAL text of the Iranian Presidents speech that included those words, in a different order than that reported on US media, but they were there.
Please read it.
And YES any country would be justified in protecting itself from aggression..Iran included.
But it is certainly comforting to know that Israel still gets so much of American aid now it has admitted possesing WMD's without inspections, America gets inspections...........but thats another story.
Regards...Alan
make sure you know what you are saying
QUOTE("Merriam Webster")
cabal
2 entries found for cabal.
To select an entry, click on it.
cabal[1,noun]cabal[2,intransitive verb]
Main Entry: 1ca·bal
Pronunciation: k&-'bäl, -'bal
Function: noun
Etymology: French cabale cabala, intrigue, cabal, from Medieval Latin cabbala cabala, from Late Hebrew qabbAlAh, literally, received (lore)
1 : the artifices and intrigues of a group of persons secretly united in a plot (as to overturn a government); also : a group engaged in such artifices and intrigues
2 : CLUB, GROUP <a cabal of artists>
synonym see PLOT
Now you have effectively answered your own querie we should address the following.
so the US and Isreal are engaged in a secret plot to do what ?
I would suggest a careful, and honest look at the reasons for the Iraq invasion and apply the parallels to Iran, for who's benefit and why.
2) if the President of the US said he wanted to wipe canada off the map dont you think just maybe the canadian would be justified in ensuring a nuclear deterant?
I would hope you have read the ACTUAL text of the Iranian Presidents speech that included those words, in a different order than that reported on US media, but they were there.
Please read it.
And YES any country would be justified in protecting itself from aggression..Iran included.
But it is certainly comforting to know that Israel still gets so much of American aid now it has admitted possesing WMD's without inspections, America gets inspections...........but thats another story.
Regards...Alan
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