http://www.freedomszone.com/aggregator.php?id=23399

Five black suspects were arrested and charged with murder among other things against a white couple.



I also read that his penis was cut off and shoved down his throat.

I noticed that Al-Sharpton jumped all over the case of the Lacross players, which ended up being just some women crying wolf but were is he with cases such as this? Were is the media attention to this case? Don Imus says nappy headed hoe's and its the worse thing since slavery but a white couple is brutally murdered and raped and not a peep.

Is Al-Sharpton racist against white people?

Does Al-Sharptons constant accusations of white racism foster black racism against white people?

Why hasn't this case gotten any media attention such as the Don Imus and Lacross case?

I should open a Poll of people betting how many minutes it will take this silly and inflammatory thread to be closed.

1- This post has nothing whatsoever to do with Al Sharpton. Nothing. How on earth you could take his lack of media-covered public pronouncements on a single murder case that happened 5 months ago, to be evidence of anything is utterly beyond me.

2- No.

3- Rather than answer that, I'll just post from Snopes.com:

"However, the notion that every major news outlet in the U.S. (all of them competitive, profit-making businesses) has conspired to ignore what would otherwise be a compelling national story is rather implausible. A more rational explanation might be found in the sober observation that murders; even decidedly horrific murders; are unfortunately too frequent an occurrence in the U.S. for all of them to garner national attention. The cases that do tend to attract prolonged, nationwide coverage are ones exhibiting a combination of factors (e.g., scandal, mystery, sexual elements, celebrity involvement, shockingly large numbers of deaths, victims who especially elicit sympathy) that make them particularly fascinating and compelling to the public at large, such as the still-unsolved murder of 6-year-old beauty queen."


Oh, and add to that, as usual the people claiming 'the national media never covered this!!!!!!!!" are just patently wrong, a 30 second Google search will find you pages on the case from CNN, Fox News, AP and a host of others...

What's so silly and inflammatory about this thread?

Im making a connection to the hyprocrisy of the so called "black leadership"... I see a trend in the US of this kind of hypocrisy. When was the last time Al-Sharpton spoke out against these types of crimes against white people? When was the last time he tried to get a black racist person fired? I mean you think if someone founded The National Association for the Advancement of White People that it would be ok? I believe that we as humans should stand up to racism everywere it exists not just among white people but among all colors and tear apart these racist organizations like the NAACP that fosters racism against white people. What organization has a leadership of all the same color, ONLY gives money to people of one color, ONLY ... oh thats the NAACP and yet it's not a racist organization??

I think the current so called "black leadership" encourages racism. Personally im outraged that there are even organizations that he is in even exist only looking at the color of peoples skin. Why is this type of behavior ok if your black but it's a sin if your white?

Also could you link the article on CNN? I can't seem to find it... or any major media outlet .. all I could find is one on Wiki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channon_Chris...r_Newsom_murder



Jesse Jackson offered to pay for the womans college that was supposedly raped by the Lacross players... so will he offer to pay for the funerals here, and demand justice to the five black suspects?

Salon is wrong, these types of crimes this brutal don't happen often, and what was the big deal about the Lacross case that didn't even really happen? Ill tell you what it was some white guys on a black girl so out comes the lynch mob, but reverse it around and there isn't even a peep.

I had never heard of this story till I read this thread.

I have done many various google news searches and am finding hardly anything, and nothing from major media outlets.
The stories I am finding are about outrage that new mainstream media are not covering this.

Although I find it disturbing the national media has overlooked this story, I don't think this really has anything to do with Al Sharpton.



That's just blatantly disingenuous regarding CNN. I searched CNN's site for both victim's names and found nothing at all on the story.

The AP had a brief blurb on the arresting and charges being filed and was dated Feb 2, 2007.

Vampiel, is it your job to make sure Al Sharpton "covers" particular stories? Honestly, I am getting a little tired of these threads that are constantly trying to "show" the hypocrisy of so-called black leaders. Mostly, the reason this annoys me so much is that Al Sharpton is under no obligation to talk about this case. So what if he doesnt? He's allowed to talk about whatever he wants. Im sure there's a plethora of other cases that Al Sharpton does not deem worthy to talk about either. What does it mean? It means, people are discerning with their attention. Honestly, do you expect Al Sharpton to condemn every single race crime committed in the US? Who the hell has time to do that? No one. Al Sharpton is no different than the rest of us. He chooses his battles, and calls attention to things he thinks are important.

Al Sharpton can make inflammatory remarks, because he's black. Racist? maybe. Nonetheless, it's true. The fact of the matter is, african-americans are still trying to ride a wave of outrage that crested, peaked, and fell, more than thirty years ago. There is no more need for a "black agenda". Its been accomplished. All that remains is prejudice, and you can't solve that. There is absolutely no way to force someone to like a particular race, only to force him to treat that race equally. Its been done. People like Al Sharpton are merely feeding off of the aftermath.

The true heroes in this matter, are the african-americans who suceeded, without having to cry wolf at every little sign of racism, those upright souls who set no double standards when it comes to morality.

Is Al-Sharpton racist against white people?
These questions are really annoying. I hope the suspects, if found guilty, get the noose, but questions like this one are not asked to bring people together in support of a goal or greater good. It's not even about the victims. Questions like this one are asked to amplify and enlarge ideological fault lines. Heck they're not even questions with room for doubt and debate. They're forgone conclusions. "Why hasn't Sharpton commented on this hate crime?" is more ambiguous, but then the obvious answer is "this case [hasn't] gotten any media attention".

BTW, the "reverend" is not of Arabic descent. It's Al Sharpton.

A few days ago I signed a SPME petition asking for the release of Haleh Esfandiari. Below my name an associate professor innocently asked, "Why aren't Western feminist organizations (i.e. NOW) speaking out on Esfandiari's imprisonment?"

All an associate professor and an member has to do is ask, "Where is so-and-so?" to "prove" hypocrisy and/or malice. In my opinion, in certain contexts Sharpton is a hypocrite. So why do you need to cook up a situation with reverse racism, especially when lots of people haven't even heard about this story (including myself), and you acknowledge the fact with question #3, Vampiel? You want to ride Al Sharpton? Here. Pick a quote. Any quote. At least we will debate something the man has said.

I think you answered your own question about what's so inflammatory about this thread. It's going to become a stage for people to spout off unsubstantiated claims like "the naacp fosters racism against white people" that have absolutely nothing to do with how racist Al Sharpton is.

How is that claim unsubstantiated you ask? Because you offer nothing as evidence to show that the 64-member NAACP board of directors is comprised of only black members. Neither do you offer any evidence showing the demographics of groups that the NAACP gives money to.

But let's say for arguments sake that we did accept your two premises without any evidence. You still don't offer any substantiation as to why a group being 1) all of one color and 2) that only gives money to people of one color is therefore a racist group. The city of Livonia, MI has an all white city council, does that make them a racist organization? I'm sure I could find hundreds of such cities across this country and others with similar demographics, are then they racist, too?

Now I'm not saying the NAACP is or is not racist, I'm just saying that you offered absolutely nothing of substance to support your claim that it is racist. I must say though that I would be interested in seeing anything of substance that you could offer that shows how the NAACP- which was largely started by white people and therefore could not be considered a racist organization per your own logic by virtue of it's racially mixed governing body- transitioned into an organization that is now racist against white people.


but to answer your original questions:


1) I don't know

2) No, but the events that garner Al Sharpton attention probably do.

3) Because it didn't involve famous people, I don't know, ask O.J. Simpson.

I'd just like to add that Al Sharpton and by extension Jesse Jackson probably think that they serve to cause a stir and bring attention to ensure justice for people whom otherwise might not get it. There's little doubt that these victims of this horrible tragedy will get justice now that the criminals have been caught. What would purpose would you expect for his presence to serve in this situation? I think that if you wanted to make a better case of showing him to be a hypocrite, you could point to his silence regarding the recent rash of bar beatings by Chicago police.

Also, you yourself remarked on how little press this tragedy received in the media, it is conceivable that Al and Jesse never heard about it.

Could be – but what has that to do with this story? You would not really expect ol Al to want to discuss this story would you?



No doubt – same for Jesse J. But there will always be plenty of racism to go around.


The big media are no doubt afraid of starting reprisal events based on giving this horrible event more coverage. This does not make it right and yes if this happened to a black couple (with white aggressors) it would be on the front page of every newspaper and media web outlet, and JJ and Al would be all over it.

Ted,

How do you know what Jackson and/or Sharpton would do or not do? Do you have a crystal ball?

Here's Sharpton's e-mail address:

show@SharptonTalk.net

Why don't you e-mail and report back if you get an answer. I can hardly wait.

Is Al-Sharpton racist against white people?

This is cute Vampiel. Did you get it from Rush limbaugh or one of those other radio clowns, or did you think up this bit of amusement all by yourself? It doesn't really matter, it detracts from your thread, if that's even possible. It's about as relevant as harping on Barack Obama's middle name.

Just my speculation based on his previous behavior – although you may be right – the Imus issue was brought to light because a liberal group had a person listening to every word he said daily waiting for something to jump on and them reported it to Al and others.

He is your buddy – you email him.



And just curious as to your thoughts on why the media missed this one?

Is Al-Sharpton racist against white people?

Possibly, but this example isn't proof one way or another.

Does Al-Sharptons constant accusations of white racism foster black racism against white people?

No.

Why hasn't this case gotten any media attention such as the Don Imus and Lacross case?

There are scores and scores of terrible crimes that get no media attention whatsoever. How much attention does the average missing child receive by comparison to JonBenet Ramsey? Why is that? Why haven't you brought the JonBenet Ramsey case to our attention? Does that mean you are inconsistent, as you are accusing Al Sharpton of being?

In a nutshell, we are all inconsistent but that doesn't necessarily invalidate our arguments. I generally tend to refute left-leaning posters more often than right-leaning, but that doesn't mean I agree with or support everything, that all right-leaning posters say. Al Sharpton (again, not that I like him) is a human being who picks his battles carefully, just like the rest of us.

On that note, now that I think about it I believe that in the two posts I've made this morning, I've managed to tick off many on both the right and left. A good day's work.

Is Al-Sharpton racist against white people?

I don't know, but when he was stabbed that one time by a white man he actually asked the judge for leniance. That dosen't sound racist.

Does Al-Sharptons constant accusations of white racism foster black racism against white people?

Racism is wrong on both sides, and while Sharpton may not be racist himself, people can interperit thing in different ways. Also, remember he is a civil rights leader, trying to get rid of the remnants of racism, at least on the other side.

Why hasn't this case gotten any media attention such as the Don Imus and Lacross case?

Because there is a double standard. It isn't right, but it is understandable.

Is Al-Sharpton racist against white people?


Yes!

Does Al-Sharptons constant accusations of white racism foster black racism against white people?

Absolutly.

Why hasn't this case gotten any media attention such as the Don Imus and Lacross case?

because we live in a society where racism towards minorities is acknowledged and focused on more than racism towards whites. Why its gotten to this point I couldn't say but Al Sharpton is an icon for black racism, and he uses religion as a medium to channel his own racial rage. Religion is the mask he hides behind and this in combination with him being a minority himself is how he gets away with such constant one sided attacks on whites, and shame on him.