Questions for the debate:

Do you believe the DVD is being suppressed because Hillary is running?

Is this something we should be concerned about? Something we should get to the bottom of?

What other possible reasons for delaying and not releasing this DVD could there be that make sense?

What should we do to get the DVD released?

Is this censorship of the worst kind - esp. with the election coming up?

If anything, I think the LA Times article you linked says a lot in a little article. It makes good points about censorship. The truth is that 9/11 happened due to a long string of blunders, but do people want to admit it?

Who's responsible? Who knows. Probably partly Mr. Clinton. Is it really Hillary's fault? maybe. maybe not.

I find it also very interesting that a network would shun a show that gets TONS of viewers and doesn't have content that would cause FCC infractions, for instance. You'd think the advertising dollars alone would make it worth while.

Remember when people said that the media wasn't liberally biased??? hmmm.....

Do you believe the DVD is being suppressed because Hillary is running?

I wouldn't be surprised. Do I believe this kind of thing happens all of the time regardless of political persuasion? Again, I wouldn't be surprised.

Is this something we should be concerned about? Something we should get to the bottom of?

Concerned enough to talk about it? Sure. Enough to take it to my congress person? Probably not.

What other possible reasons for delaying and not releasing this DVD could there be that make sense?

I would not be surprised to find out there a dozens of reasons.

What should we do to get the DVD released?

It's a free country - knock yourself out. Don't suggest though that I should do anything.

Is this censorship of the worst kind - esp. with the election coming up?

Absolutely not. Let's reserve the worst acts of censorhip for when our government is involved. ABC should be able to restrict whatever they want on their own network.

Can we make a new rule here at that no one can use the word censorship unless they actually understand what it means? I mean, geez Ted, I like you and all, and this isn't just you - BUT THIS ISN'T CENSORSHIP.

So anyway, having gotten that off my chest...

I don't know why this isn't being pressed into a DVD. I didn't see this miniseries. I didn't watch the miniseries. I don't care about the miniseries and I certainly wouldn't pay money to own this miniseries.

Want to really get under their skin Ted? Find the miniseries on alt.binaries.tv.miniseries (or whatever) and burn your own DVDs and give them out for free. Spread the word Ted. Give'em Hell.

Oh and I don't think the First Lady had a lot to do with 9/11. I just don't.

Ted- censorship of the worst kind would be the goverment suppressing this DVD- which is clearly not happening. I have no idea why it is not released- should go over well with the same gullible idiots that bought "the Klinton Kronicles"

Heck, if it were me, I would sell them myself- there are plenty of gullible right wingers that would buy it- I don't discriminate when poeple are willing to give me money.

I like to make informed decisions, so I just got done watching it. Thank god for torrents! I've watched every single 9/11 movie, miniseries, and documentary I've been able to get my hands on from Fahrenheit/hype 9-11, to "made for tv" series to this one, and I have to say this one was the most informative one by far. I'm not sure what this has to do with Hillary or the upcoming elections, but I certainly didn't see this as a "blame Clinton" thing.

First off, I'm not a fan of Bill, but I don't believe he was negligent nor do I believe he bombed the aspirin factory to take away the media attention from his scandal. That being said, let's not pull any punches here, a lot of terrorist activity happened on his watch, so of course people are going to blame him, but if this miniseries proved anything, it was that there were ongoing investigations into these attacks on his watch. I'll admit I was more than once infuriated that we had visual confirmation of Usama's location, not once, but twice.....and did nothing. The first time, it was because of the possibility, a remote one at that, women and children(about a dozen) would be killed in the fight. The second time, a much broader approach(all al-quaeda cells that we knew of, including Usama's camp) was because, according to a high ranking director, that it was too close to election time. Then of course we have the cruise missile heading for a known location of Usama, however....when we contacted Pakistan to let them know there was going to be a missile flying over their airspace and not to worry about an Indian attack, they leaked it to Usama and he fled. Let's not forget the millions and millions of dollars we sent to Afghanistan for "humanitarian aid" by both the Clinton and Bush administrations that went straight to Usama and his organization.

In Clinton's defense, it's so easy to blame him in hindsight, knowing what we know now about 9/11. Before that, terrorist activity was very small scale. More people died in the Cole and African embassy bombings than in the first attempt on the WTC on American soil. There were a lot of reports during the Bush administration that spoke of imminent attacks and nothing was done also. If we want to place blame, there's plenty to go around.

Now that I got that off my chest, as far as censorship, I'm not sure why they haven't released it. Maybe they just think it would be beating a dead horse, I mean, there have been a ton of 9/11 movies in the last 6 years. It's too bad though, this one was very informative. I really do urge people to watch this one if they can get their hands on it.

You are worried about censorship? About bad precedents?Well is too late my friend. The powers-that-be have concluded that "we the people" can not handle the truth.

According to the testimony provided by the FBI to the 09/11 Commission the reason for the "terrorism" - actually retaliation" was/is the US Support of Israel. But you can not read the testimony because the 09/11 Commission ordered the same SUPPRESSED , CENSORED!!!

Hey I never had any doubt that our support of Israel is a major reason for the attacks – Bin Laden and his band of lunatics say it often enough.

What I don’t get is why a lying slob like M. Moore has no trouble getting his left oriented crap on DVD in no time and so does every other TV broadcast – even bad ones but this acclaimed mini series is held up.

This is dirty left politics at its best imo. ABC got lots of heat from the Clinton folks (and supporters) and now is willing to just hold this DVD off the market.

Ted, a little research might be in order before you post something with such a blatant over-the-top bias: Disney tries to stop release of Fahrenheit 9/11 (CNNMoney.com, May 6, 2004)

By the way, Disney owns ABC.

Ted- are you saying the Clintons have enough power to pull a vid all by themselves? Wow- why bother having an elections at all- the Clintons can just declare themselves King and queen, and, oh, maybe a couple chubby but hawt retainers?

Micheal Moore had to jump through SERIOUS financial hoops and hurdles to get Farenhieght 9/11 released, given the intense pressure from the GW admin to squash it- and massive right wing outswell of hatred- very similar to the stuff you just typed- - however- he went the distance and released it under a different label. THAT was a true attempt at quasi-goverment/corporate attempt at censorship- and, if some evidence says otherwise - I will be as vocal as anyone to get this thing out to the public- to quote (possibly- the quote is not in stone) Voltaire- I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it.

I believe that what we have here is a case of bad management, incompetants that can't get a juicy bit of trash published, and our society LOVES trash!

But they did not do it did they. So what you are saying is this is more than Disney and maybe more than ABC pressure. The DVD is not released. The creator of the series is all over TV saying a “ABC exec TOLD HIM that it would have been released if Hillay was not running”. How do you interpret that???



Ya right and it went out – see above. AND the maker of Pathe to 9/11 says his piece is not labeled as a “documentary” but is a dramatization since they don’t have exact words etc.

Slob Moore’s piece of trash on the other hand IS called a documentary even though that has been blown to pieces 1000 times since day one.

Nowrasteh, also one of the miniseries' many producers, said he was told by a top executive at ABC Studios that "if Hillary weren't running for president, this wouldn't be a problem."

This is telling. Could ABC be worried it will run afoul of Section 315 in the Communications Act of 1934? Most stations with one exception have pulled Law & Order episodes with Fred Thompson because he's running. TNT wants to test Section 315's equal time rules by broadcasting his episodes during the election. Good luck with the FCC, TNT. Then again maybe the network doesn't need luck. The Act has been weakened enough (thanks, Clinton) that the federal agency might not give a damn.

I don't know if Law & Order episodes come out on DVD but I've a feeling NBC would be just as nervous about releasing DVDs featuring Thompson. Does anyone know?

The producer said this has been going on for a year. Clearly pressure has been placed high up at ABC to stop the release of this DVD which would freshen in everyone’s mind the failures during Clinton years leading up to 9/11 – especially after 1998 when bin Laden declared “war” on us and we missed getting him for no good reason.

Failures based on what, a docudrama the 9/11C has publicly rejected? Democrats and conservatives shook their heads about P29/11 because Nowrasteh was trying to pass his miniseries off as non-fiction. Months later you're trying to prop up the miniseries as something other than a fictional work based on the 9/11C's report. Apparently you know better than the Commission and other conservatives with enough integrity to call a spade a spade.

It could be that ABC is nervous about calling the powers-that-be to their attention, but until you come up with some proof I'm going to assume ABC wants to distance itself from Nowrasteh's laughable characterization about the miniseries until the election is over. I'd still like to know whether this has anything to do with Section 315.

Maybe they were not accurate (or kind) to Madeline but surely you cannot compare the p29/11 to trash like Moore’s Fahrenheit – which was internationally acclaimed as a “documentary”. Nothing said in P29/11 comes close to this piece of crap.

And the key point that we missed killing Bin Laden several times, for no good reason, the creator of the series said was vetted by CIA and is accurate. So yes some of the work is admittedly fiction and some of it is accurate.

And as far as the ludicrous 9/11 Commission report please spare me – this “Commission” set out to “not point fingers” for a very specific reason – because the fingers would point right back to the Congress and in many cases the White House. They did their job of covering their butts.



Regardless of any of this the DVD should be released as the Moore films were.

I don't think Section 315 applies here. It's about giving candidates equal use of broadcast facilities. But there are no candidates in Path to 9/11, and it's not being broadcast.

I don't know what will happen with TNT and Law & Order. Some cable companies pulled Schwarzenegger's movies during the 2003 California gubernatorial recall campaign, but others (including TNT) didn't: