http://www.adn.com/24hour/front/story/3709...-13141172c.html

Brodhead. the prez of Duke apologized for the horrible treatment by the school towards the completely innocent Lacrosse players. Fired coach, demonized players- and self righteous educators all pretty much destroyed the entire lacross team that year. Okay- lots of repurcussions all around, except for one glaring person- the person that started it all- the scumbag that made the false allegations in the first place.

We have talked about the double standard of the law- here is a glaring example-

Why no charges for this piece of work at this time, no media onslaught and camping out on her lawn, with her face plastered all over the national news?

Why no charges for this piece of work at this time, no media onslaught and camping out on her lawn, with her face plastered all over the national news?

Interesting question. I suspect that a big part of the reason that no criminal charges have been filed, and I'm not sure what they'd be, is that the entire community wants to move forward. That would include the Duke Lacrosse players who were falsely accused although they may have some civil actions pending. The DA Nifong has been disbarred and that's a good thing and hopefully potentially rogue DAs around the country have taken notice. At this point I don't know what interest would be served by tar and feathering the accuser.


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Maybe because the woman in question is not necessarily a 'piece of work', but is suffering from some mental disorder?

There have been a few cases like thi sone in Denmark recently. One woman accused three men of raping her in a van, another fabricated a rape story that accused her fathers best friend. In both these cases the women later came clean and the question has been raised in our social debate fora, why would women do this? The most commonly accepted answer is, they are looking for attention and lost in their own mental wilderness have lost touch with their empathy. The accepted wisdom is these women are every bit a victim as the men they have accused.

Not an easy concept to accept if you are one of those men perhaps, but understandable at least for the rest of us in this modern age of greater perception. After all, we see how people destroy themselves with eating disorders, suicidal rampage and self mutilation, how hard is it to understand that these people are being driven to extremes by social pressures beyond their control. One could draw a parrallel with the higher infant mortality rate amongst Arican Americans being caused by perceived racist pressures.

Why no charges for this piece of work at this time, no media onslaught and camping out on her lawn, with her face plastered all over the national news?

The media was at fault as well. If they hadn't made this issue the federal case that they did, and been the team's prosecutors-without-trial we wouldn't be debating about it at this moment would we? Maybe the team should camp out on the lawns of the journalists who defamed them?

I don't think pressing charges against the accusor would be good precedent. That idea scares me more than a little. Do we then press charges against all women who lose and/or drop their rape cases due to insufficient evidence? Defendants are not required to prove that they are innocent, only that they cannot be proven guilty beyond all reasonable doubt. We have a legal system that errs on the side of caution towards the defendant, and many real rapists go free for this reason. Often women don't go forward with their cases and drop charges because they don't have a convincing enough case to convict....not because they were not actually raped. So who on earth would come forward with a real case if she could likely end up on trial herself as a result of coming forward?

And per what moif said above, I agree. We have a young girl living next door right now whose father is in jail for sexual abuse. Her mother elected to not have her go to counseling because she feels the young girl "doesn't need it". This little child is a mess, and speaks of adult things that young girls shouldn't...as well as having some questionable strange behavior. I rarely allow her in the house for any reason, and never when my husband is home because of the very legitimate fear that she will accuse him of something....in which case it would be very hard to defend with the child's word against his. Perhaps he would not be prosecuted, but the stain on his reputation would be huge and ever-lasting. At any rate, I have absolutely no doubt that this damaged child will grow into an adult with major issues.

The main blame here for false accusations are not the media- prosecutor and others that were quick to rush to judgement- the main culpability for a crime here is the low-life that made the accusations in the first place- she bears 100% of the responsibility for HER actions- yes, there was wrongdoing from that point on- but there would have been NO wrongdoing had she not lied in the first place!

Actually- this casts doubt on any case that is a mere she siad/they said- I wonder how many innocent men are convicted regularly by these types of women, with no real evidence but her word?

No, this scumbag ( I won't call her lady or woman, she is slime)- should be AT LEAST sentenced to jail the same length as the accused would have done had they been found guilty- and the sentences should reflect each person harmed- 20 years minimum before being allowed parole for each count, to be served consecutively- in other words- she should die in jail- just like those men would have done.

We DO need to set a precedent that making false accusation will get you the same time as the person you are making these allegations against.

She is the most culpable person in this crime- there would have been nothing here without her false accusations in the first place.

She is a competant and culpable adult- no one questoned her mental status when she made the allegations- and she should be considered equally competent and culpable now.

Why no charges for this piece of work at this time, no media onslaught and camping out on her lawn, with her face plastered all over the national news?

Because a woman yelling "rape" is absolutely unimpeachable. By virtue of being a woman, she is a victim of every man who has ever raped any woman, ever, in the entire history of humanity, and is thus surrounded by the halo of oppressed sisterhood. She is garbed in adamantium armor of integrity ("why would a woman lie about a thing like that"), she is shielded by the need to protect every actual victim of rape in the future. Truthiness is sufficient, because truth is irrelevant. Men? Well, they're expendable.

Nifong and the black hearted harlot should both be doing the same sentences that their victims would have been facing. Brodhead should be unemployed, all 88 professors who signed onto the witchhunt should have their tenure reviewed, by a panel of athletes, and the media, well, unfortunately there's no good way of punishing them.

Moif, when a man commits a crime because he "wants attention", mature people don't give him a pass. He gets attention, just not the sort he may have wanted. There's no reason, save some horrid perversion of chivalry, to fail to apply the same standard to women, especially when rape is concerned.

Contrast the purported crime (a few hours of rape), with the punishment. What, pray tell, do you think was going to happen to a bunch of rich (supposedly) college kids in prison?

Why no charges for this piece of work at this time, no media onslaught and camping out on her lawn, with her face plastered all over the national news?

What would she be charged with? Filing a false police report? She can't be held responsible for a media firestorm or the actions of a DA with bad judgement. Unfortunately, you can only blame the population at large, for folllowing the coverage and for electing the DA. Given the relevant information, AFAIK, it would take any DA five minutes to determine that this accuser was lying. This DA seems to have gotten caught up in the hysteria, and he's paying the price for not getting his facts straight (that is a pretty important part of his job, after all.)

No matter how spurious her claims were, if we punish her for what she may have thought was rape, we risk that women who actually are raped will not come forward in the future. Since it is such a traumatic experience, and such a horrible crime, I just don't believe it's worth it in this case. The best punishment we can offer this woman is to ignore her.

As far as these poor, poor falsely accused lacrosse players go, this is what can happen when you hire hookers for your parties. I take special precautions against prostitutes accusing me of rape, and I'll bet these guys will too, now. They should make a public service video.

How about a much better thing- why don't we give her equal treatment to those men she falsely accused, throw her butt in jail, and let her date the big girl with the most cigarrettes- she has harmed those men for life, and she deserves equal.

Who cares if it scares other women? Well , hopefully- it scares women from making false allegations and ruining folks lives.

At the very least, she should be obligated to pay for every single expense she generated with her false claims.

She still bears the main responsibility for this fiasco- not the DA, not the press- the piece of work that made the false allegations- probably hoping to cash in on a civil suite on some rich dudes.

It is cases like this that I wish we did have some exceptions to cruel and unusual punishment. This is one.

I don't recall anything parallel happening to the accused. In point of fact, they never spent a night in jail over this, according to:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/17/...in1501273.shtml




Well, I do, for one. I honestly think that many women, who are genuine victims of rape, will look at this fiasco and decide it isn't worth the humiliation, and therefore there will be that many more rapists on the street. You can't be that callous.





After she made the false claim, it was out of her hands. She's only the victim, the crime is against the state. If the DA had called a forensics team instead of Inside Edition, we may never have heard of this story. How much does it cost to produce a crime report, and apply a rape kit?





Again I disagree, the same logic could be interpreted to say that the first bad act was a few rich jocks buying themselves a prostitute for the night. Historically, THAT would have been the scandal. These guys didn't get charged with rape on their way home from a church picnic, guy. I bet even now they wish they had paid her what she was expecting to get paid. What you bring around stays around.




I don't understand the hate. Yes our time was "wasted," as was the energy and resources of the state. However, the only reason we ever heard about it is the media, and that didn't cost us anything extra. If anything, it helped expose an incompetent DA, which is a job well done.

The girl was either a grifter running a scam that got out of control, or a really, really stupid prostitute. Either way, I don't see us getting any compensation. Where would it come from? I also don't see any point in charging her with some stupid misdemeanor. Besides which, I'll bet that same dumb DA granted her blanket immunity, which just moots the whole debate.

So what am I missing? Are you some kinda lacrosse superfan or something?

CR, who is moderately more sane than I am , has generated the hate from the outrage he feels as a man. Watching these 3 get destroyed in the media and nearly by the Justice System while the accuser suffered no legal consequences is infuriating. You feel helpless as these events unfold and as you come to realize there's nothing to the charges and yet they continue on without any sense to them. This juggernaut rolls on with racial overtones and there appears to be no stopping it. Once it's stopped and all the wreckage is lain behind it you want to cause the same pain and destruction to those who birthed this beast. The feeling is that something bad should happen to Crystal Magnum (besides her stupid name) and that nothing happening is so completely unjust that the frustration of the situation metastasizes itself into righteous hatred.

Plus everyone is really sick of bad women getting away with this crap.

It also makes you wonder how many innocent men are sitting in jail as result of false allegations. Those with less resources to fight it, and end up plea-ing out because they know that, even if they are innocent- it is useless to fight polly-pureheart's un-impeachable testimony.

The whole "shielding the victim's identity from the public" unless a minor is wrong, wrong wrong. IT is time we started holding women as responsible as men for thier crimes, and make them explain themselves publically, just like we do men, when they are accusing someone of something so horrible.

Nifong is a victim of this woman as well- she is the one that lied, and got the ball rolling- at the top of the culpability in this is this woman's lies and fraud- and she needs to pay for it, for the rest of her miserable life.

The answer runs deeper than that even. The reason there's no media onslaught is that it would completely go against the dogmatic view of the world that the media, academia, and Hollywood have created for us. Their world is a world where the "rich and priveleged" are inherently evil people (especially if they're white) who they run roughshod over the rest of humanity. With this crowd, it's all about "power dynamics", which of course work only in one direction. The high priests of this worldview absolutely can not afford to let actual reality get in the way of it.

I find it all a very fascinating case study of just how much power they have to define reality for us.

By the way, I know a lot of people have good reason not to like Ann Coulter, but this one column of hers commenting on the case is definitely worth a read, if you can find it in you to make an exception.