QUOTE(DaytonRocker @ Nov 24 2007, 12:12 PM)

QUOTE(CruisingRam @ Nov 24 2007, 02:57 PM)

Hmmm, though I do think you went a bit far down the slippery slope there DR- I do think you are on to something, in terms of confidential/corporate secrets issue.
I'm not sure how it's a slippery slope. My point is, it's not up to the government to tell me a person's right to speak a language I don't know in my place of business supersedes my right to protect my company. Again, I'm not saying I would do this, but why can't I?
And there is nothing to say this is malicious intent. For example, one customer I do work for has a very, very proprietary process behind a 12 foot wall, It is not patented because they would have to explain their process. Instead, they control all aspects of it on a need-to-know basis.
Well, I have a need to know and have to do work behind those walls. Given this, I have to send my employees behind those walls to do work as well.
Now, Fred - a loyal employee - comes back after a job happy with his success. He's out in the shop talking to his co-workers and not thinking it would cause any harm, tells employees I would rather not know anything all about this process everything he did, where he did it, and why he did it - nothing malicious.
If me or anybody hears that happen, we can take actions to take care of this incident. It may be as simple as a friendly warning, but needs corrective action.
However, if these employees are talking in a language someone in authority does not know, that incident goes un-noticed and unchecked. If a report comes back to me that one of my employees has violated an agreement and I did nothing about it, I lose all my business in a 2 minute phone call.
Can they do this after work? Probably. If they hang out together after work. But I shouldn't lose my right to minimize the risks associated with my business. And if corrective action is taken on the spot, it may be a warning to others not to do the same.
What people need to realize, is that when you start legislating business management, it affects everybody. It doesn't just affect that Super Walmart in downtown Miami. It affects my company in English speaking flyover country.
And, I am only guessing here, I don't think you would find yourself on the wrong end of the EEOC on this one- I believe thier examples gives room for this scenario- I will have to ask someone I know that is an expert in labor law and discrimination issues next time I have lunch with him- he is a union business agent.
He made a very good point to me one time he said "dude, some folks think we go out looking for someone to make an example of, or go out looking for discrimination cases- couldn't be less true- I NEVER took a case that wasn't a total slam-dunk, guys practically had sheets and hoods on- I never had the resources to go after marginal cases".
If you can explain to the EEOC a legitimate need for a certain business practise, it appears to me they give plenty of wiggle room here.
There are alot more "white immigrants" these days, that don't speak english, or speak english well. Some are hispanic, some are eastern european.
It will remain to be seen if the language is the issue - or the race is the issue, as we get more and more former eastern bloc immigrants.
I took chemistry from a polish immigrant, and many dropped the class because he was so hard to understand. Took me ten minutes to understand he was saying "Atom" in the first class- closet i can spell it out is said 'agum" with the "ah" sound. I thought he was talking about some compound I had not read about in the book or something.
If you are educated, and needed in a field- good ol' capitalism will come to play- they will hire you, and will try to retain you. If you have minimal education, adn work in a job that requires little education- you will always be in flux, because they may wish to fire you, because a new employee simply costs less.
the unit Director (MD) on my unit at my hospital is Iranian (she likes to be called "persian")- has a terrible accent, and her writing can be difficult to follow sometimes, as she writes just like she speaks- but, everyone recognizes she is a great doctor, and gets results. But her accent is terrible. They could easily fire her, because, in the field of psychology, knowing english well could be seen as a very, very good thing.
But, her job performance is such, and she makes such strides to make herself understood- it would be stupid to fire her.