Read the last line in my sig-

Stupid humour can be funny- no doubt about it- that has been Howard's appeal since the begining- do you disagree? I have liked stupid movies.

But when you mix stupid and politics- unless it is a farce type sketch comedy- it lays flat.

Graduating from college is no safe bet from stupidity. I know of at least one stupid person that got into Harvard 'cause of who his daddy was.

I have heard a great deal many bad comments about Noam Chomsky on this board- from a guy that never has read a single one of his books. That too is pretty stupid. Noam Chomksy, Milton Friedman and Stephan Hawking are probably three of the greatest geniuses of our time or any other time- but how many Americans do you think would recognize those names there BA?

Okay- how many do you think would recognize these names:

Paris Hilton
Britney Spears
Lindsay Loham

I rest my case.

It is like I said once when asked about what qualities women look for in a man- when polled- it is "sense of humour" as the #1.

So, who is the sexiest man alive? Is it oh, Danny Devito? George Carlin? Nope- it is Brad Pitt- Smart and ugly is trumped by dumb and pretty every time ( not saying that Brad Pitt is dumb, I doubt he is- I am using it as a metaphor, mmkay?)

Dumb is popular, smart is not. No one likes a smarty pants, now do they BA?

Micheal Jordon is probably not stupid- but he didn't exactly rock the whole world with his career, affecting every person on the globe now did he? Bill Gates has fundamentally changed the entire world. Genius doesn't have to come from a book, or letters. Micheal Jordon played a child's game for money- that is the extent of his contribution.

The Howard Stern model celebrates "mocking authority" and "pushing the envelope"

Got an example of how Limbaugh does that?

Yeah that bit about CrackHead Bob... Rush TOTALLY copied that with.. uh.. "right here in my formerly-nicotine stained fingers..."

I would question debating whether or not she is good at what she does. Unless *evidence* can be posted that AA's numbers hit the tank after she began programming, I don't see how that argument has a leg to stand on, other than, "Well, I think that...." which as we all know, doesn't prove a hill of beans. Unless Hillary stood on that hill and it was really a mountain....under sniper fire.....without health insurance......

She started when the network started. She has "amassed" a whopping 1.5 million cume listeners during her tenure at a national network. She fails to entertain and draw listeners, given the size of her platform.

CruisingRam, unless you are doing a parody of yourself, please learn how to spell Michael Jordan or "cerebral" before you cast aspersions on others and call them stupid. It's really not funny when you can't even string a sentence together.

Personally- I think that people that have problems with typos (I can spell just fine, sometimes I type a little faster, but I don't care) , either are a school teacher (hey, it is your proffesion, so it can slide) , anal retentive, or, they need to just find something to bolster thier lame argument, ya, I am sorry- but if you voted for GW twice- you are a freakin' moron. Incredible lack of judgement, and an incredible appetite for believing total fecal material coming from the Rove camp-

hey- I have known some pretty dumb editors (actually spawning the "kickstand" quote) that were great proofreaders. I also know some very mentally disabled people that can spell quite nicely, and, can in fact, correct your english from an article written two years ago.

But still not very smart.

Again- if you listen to and believe Rush Limbaugh (as a source of information, NOT some form of odd entertainment) , yeah, you are stupid, if you voted for GW TWICE- you are a real mouth breather there. Oh, that doesn't mean you can't run a business, I know some very dumb, but very good businessmen too. Having a talent in one specific part of life doesn't make you smart- it makes you a specialized insect. Animals specialize- humans diversify.

The folks that believed the swift water liars are INCREDIBLY stupid, gullible, and whatever adjective you wish to use.

Oh, I know, I am being so insensitive and abrasive to poor people that voted for GW and believed the swift water liars- but they did vote for the worst president in possibly 100 years. I feel the same way about those that voted for Nixon- twice. You can't be a good person and do something like that, either that, or you were stupid, dumb moronic- whatever name fits.


Spelling and grammar errors aren't near as egregious as voting for GW twice. Not even in the same class dude.

Also- asking for perfect syntax, grammar and spelling on an internet forum is well, stupid, and pointless. You guys will be really screwed when the internet goes full "texting" type conversations huh? BRB 2 here your respnce mmkay?

Um, AZ- did you ever hear Rush's show before?

ya don't think attacking Micheal Fox (OMG< did I spell that right? ) oh, and a variety of other things that have been "controversial" or some such kinda follows Howard Stern's format and basic "mocking of authority"- he didn't bag on Clinton, every day of his show, for, oh, around 8 years? Isn't that "mocking of authority"

I have no problem with edgy entertainment- as long as the person knows it is just entertainment. But there are a whole lot of folks out there that buy it as truth.

I believe Rush used to have a slogan "99% correct" or some such, correct?

To be fair though AZ- ALL radio format today, if talk radio, pretty much follows the Howard Stern created format, or the NPR boring as heck format.

Go do some radio work, if you can, sometime.

For instance- you have a favorite "morning show"- go check it out, and see how the nut's and bolts works.

Basically- Rush substituted "lesbians" for "Clinton" or "liberals" or something along those lines.

he was the first to rip off Howard for a political show, however, well, perhaps- Do you remember Morton Downey? I would say he predates all but Stern IIRC.

One other thing a "local radio personality" made a point of earlier- is how unstable your job can be in radio in the first place. Only a big name "personality" gets this kind of debate- radio stations fire and re-hire and re-format and decide to "go another direction" all the time. If you are a fairly big name in a regional market- you may hit every station each affiliate has over the course of your career.

usually you lose your job, you go to another station- the difference in Randi Rhodes vs, oh, Bob Lester in Anchorage- is that her market might shrink, and so might her earning power.

Most radio personalities, even in a good regional market- have very, very bad job security situation. Imus is a very rare thing in Radio.

As an attempt to clarify and get somewhere near the topic, I was obviously pointing out the business model, and not the content level of stupidity, imagined or otherwise. I wouldn't include Howard Stern and Rush Limbaugh in the same style of show at all, but they used similar business models to achieve syndication and commercial success. Air America tried something completely different ... and failed. Yet they assure us that we should trust them to apply their ideas for fixing the economy, the environment, foreign policy, etc. I hope that Jones radio and others do a better job, so we can at least have some decent liberal radio out there besides what my tax dollars fund.

Okay, we are off topic here by saying she is "boring" and criticizing her popularity. The record on that is rather mixed as you can find evidence for both sides.

Source that was from 2005, her fall 2006 numbers also show Air America listenership up in 2006 as her and Franken led the charge ratings wise. Air America and Rhodes had success as well in big markets like NYC.

Now I suppose a member could find posts about when the ratings were down, but when taken within the context of the ratings also being up during certain months and in certain locales, we really don't have something hard to go by here people. I'm a liberal and all, and I have never heard of this lady's show, nor have I ever heard her voice. Let's talk about her comments. Leave the partisan name-calling and drive by dismissals alone and post some hyperlinks inbetween those brilliant one liners of "yes" or "no."

It's official - she's leaving Air America.
Apparently Sheldon Drobny, founder of Air America, has hired Ms. Rhodes at his new Nova-M radio network. I wish him the same sort of luck he had with AAR, where ratings were ok somewhere sometime and they went bankrupt. With that kind of success, he should get in the mortgage business.

Maybe I am missing something, but you have one link going to her website and another going to dailykos. After going to those links, I am missing the non-biased report somewhere. Are you saying that because a liberally biased website and her own website says that she is beating the socks off of conservative talk show hosts that makes her ratings actually higher and making her more popular?

I don't know if you are missing anything, other than the comment that I posted relating to the fact, that a person could find numbers indicating unpopularity, as well as popularity either way. I also stated that we can't base this topic on those numbers. Her being "boring" to a conservative member isn't going to adequately address the issue as numbers can be found on either side of the argument, thus leaving us nowhere anyways. It is her comments, and not her popularity, that is the issue here. This topic isn't about whether or not she's *boring* according to conservative AD members. I take issue with the topic heading that direction as the answer is already obvious if we go along that tack. I'd like to discuss her comments.

CruisingRam:

Agreed. Oh, and that's: UR respnce.

Didn't want you to be left behind. (Great, now i'm going to be accused of being the grammar police!)

Jokes aside, I'm glad you said that. Bad spelling doesn't mean the other side can trump your argument or judge your intelligence. Albert Einstein was so smart, he couldn't even tie his own shoes, so I hope that point hits home with everyone.


I find it ironic that those on the left actually think that conservative Republicans are glued to Rush Limbaugh. He's a commentator, he is incredibly brilliant with his chosen craft, and he has a huge influence with both citizens and individuals in government.

What is stupid is that because he's the top producer in talk radio, he all of a sudden is called some obscure ultimate source of view for Republicans. Geez, I don't think every liberal woman buys the crap that falls out of Rosie O'Donnel's mouth, even if the View does have a top slot. Are they influencing people? Yes. And that's the whole POINT of politically opinionated shows.

Rush was hooked on perscrips. Rhodes blasted Hillary with foul language. Neither are leaders, both are human.
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CruisingRam, I voted for GW twice. That neither makes me any more stupid, or ignorant than the other half of this entire country that voted that way. Had there been a better option is Gore (not!) or Kerry (well, better, but NOT), I would have cast my vote accordingly. It's not my fault the Democrats put up two sucky candidates that refused to have a better plan than the one that was going on currently.

You are falling for yet another CruisingRam strawman. If it's so important, maybe you can go back and find where I asked for "perfect syntax, grammar and spelling." I merely pointed out that someone who can't even be bothered to spell correctly or even construct intelligent-sounding sentences is calling everyone who disagrees with them 'stupid' and a 'mouth breather.' That's not effective debate. Or correct. Or constructive. It's the very definition of irony. It also goes against the forum customs, as CR well knows. So, he can add the proprietors here at to the list of people he finds to be 'stupid.'



Lastly, as noted, this topic is about a radio host, not George Bush or "swift water liars" or some such thing.

Well, it's official-Nova M radio is the new home of the Randi Rhodes show. Nova M is home to folks like Mike Malloy and some others who are regular staples on Sirius and XM. She isn't on Sirius at the moment, will be interesting to see if they put her in there.

Well, thanks for confirming it was official. I hope that Nova-M offers good mental health-care benefits, as Ms. Rhodes and Mr. Malloy both need serious counseling.

Same goes for XM Radio's lineup.