Brilliant Post Daffy, not biased or unreasonable at all... ugh.

Limbaugh is a shock jock like the rest, and because you don't agree with him, you make comments about how awful he is.

Whatever. He's never as inflammatory as the preacher of the Presidential Candidate that you support. Heck, at least he doesn't pretend to be a clergyman.

I don't listen to Rush, and I couldn't even tell you that I listen to talk radio outside of ESPN Radio. However, I do find entertainment in the idea that you think that Republicans are more likely to disrupt the convention... that's EXACTLY what white middle class people are known for. Brilliant... *cough cough*.

And...umm... did you ever address his message? Is it unreasonable that the Super-Delegate bit should be considered as a travesty of American politics? Or do Democrats just hold disdain for elitism in the Republican party? (i.e Elitists that are Democrats are fine....)

His "small audience" is made up of 13.5 million listeners. Trinity Church has 6,000 members.

6,000 churchgoers listening to an angry black man are capable of causing more harm than 13.5 million listeners, um, listening to an angry white man.

Yeah.

Can you give me even one example of any "unstable" Rush listeners who have done anything outside of the bounds of the law as a result of his entreaty? Just curious.




As I said to Daffy, can you cite even one example where one of Rush's listeners has done anything outside of the law as a result of his entreaty?

Are you suggesting you're less likely to find a loose screw in a smaller audience, Wright's audience is capable of doing harm, Wright's raving's don't make people commit illegal acts, or... what? Why am I taking Daffy's job again?

I posted Limbaugh's audience number 'cause proving Ted wrong is like shooting fish in a barrel. 13.5 million listeners is a wet dream by industry standards. Then I wondered how big Wright's audience is. Then I reasoned if someone is gonna go off the deep end it's statistically more likely to be a Limbaugh listener.

Ya I know “former” as in he stopped him from giving the invocation at his campaign kick off – even though he says he spent 20 years in the church and never knew his views? Ya sure we all believe that fairy tale.



I see that you are back to the personal attacks – try actually responding with some substance rather than drivel.

And I care a lot more about what your buddy SAID in SF. His demeaning, elitist, insulting comments will not be forgotten – so attack all you want BoF but your blabbering will not make this go away.

What Buddy are you talking about? I've never been to San Francisco.

Please provide a link, that is, if you have time.

Please BoF – the “Cling to the guns and Religion” gaff. The words came out of his mouth.

Look it up – its all over the place.

Here listen - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMkQ6OPi3RU

I'm glad you could find time to be specific, Ted, but this thread is about the words Rush Limbaugh, not Barack Obama.

Again, if you are going to hold Obama accountable for non-issues like the San Francisco slip, then you have to be willing to hold Republican mouthpiece Limbaugh accountable for what he says.

Can you respond to without trying to this into a Barack Obama/Jeremiah Wright thread?

And please quote me anything he said that approaches the racist, anti American, bigoted, lunatic crap that has come out of Mr. Wrights mouth? Certainly not the “riot” comment.

Dig deep ………………….LOL

I shouldn't have to. You are taking the thread off topic to no surprise. You, HtL and aevans176 have brought up Wright/Obama for what Wright alone has said. You guys talk about the two as if they are one. Limbaugh has made some pretty outrageous claims over the past twenty years and yeah, there was that ESPN firing over racist comments. That was one of many cases where he let his big mouth write a check his even bigger rear end couldn't cash.

Its because your attack on RL is so transparent as an attempt to pull the attention away from the right controversy – and so trivial. It invites comparison and gets it.




and PS Imus is back on radio

Tell me Ted, what is the "right" controversy? You did mean did mean "Wright" didn't you?

Oh, hell Chomsky or "Chumpsky," right or "Wright" it's all equally good, isn't it Ted?

Another great one liner and spelling comment. Do you want to discuss or insult? Pick one.

I call him Chumpsky because that is how I view the man.

Serving in the military doesn't automatically give you the Patriot of the Year award...Ever hear of Timothy McVeigh?

Oooooh, SNAP!


Setting traps? First, if that is the case, sounds immature to me, but second, I don't believe it. As many threads that have been started with this very topic by liberals that are just dying to talk smack about anyone on the right for whatever reason they can come up with, I think this is just the rantings of those wanting to distract anyone and everyone from the disaster that is the Democratic Primary. I guess that is only opinion, but throughout this thread, it appears opinion is flowing freely.

I was hoping you would tell me it was a clever play on the word "right" and the name "Wright," but you've confirmed my worst fears. It's not a matter of spelling, but haste and inattention to detail and not having enough respect for this board to even try getting it right. Until now you've been typing Wright.

I suspected that was your pet name for Chomsky, was "Chumpsky." The trouble is it's childish and not terribly creative.

I'm just following your lead Ted. Since when did you become a moderator? Oh, and quit playing the victim card and please try addressing the subject of the thread - Rush Limbaugh.

I'm not sure why I'm bothering. It's not gonna make a dent to a "non-Rush fan" like Ted. Thankfully, others have done the research for me. Here's a racist sample. I don't want to post more junk in the lunatic and bigoted categories. As for anti-American, there isn't any anything anti-American from Limbaugh. Not according to conservative standards, anyway. Besides, it's not as if Republicans are going to take issue with anything Limbaugh says, the guy who calls himself a water-carrier for the party.

• Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?
• Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.
• You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray [the confessed assassin of Martin Luther King]. We miss you, James. Godspeed.
• I mean, why didn't these morons leave New Orleans before the hurricane? I'll tell you why: because they wanted to rape and loot! That's just the way some people are! And if they're black—if the rapists and looters are black—it's not George Bush's fault! We've had these problems ever since the Emancipation Proclamation. Once the whites leave town, all you've got is overwhelming lawlessness. That's not racism, Mr. Snerdley; it's a proven, demonstrable fact. Have you even seen a ghetto in Greenwich, Connecticut? I rest my case.
• The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.
• Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.
• I mean, let's face it, we didn't have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. I'm not saying we should bring it back; I'm just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark.

I don’t listen to the man but if you are saying RL said what you have posted – post sources please.

Here are three instances of 's racism with a link.


http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2549

Now show me that McCain had his as an advisor and friend for 20 years – Oh that’s right Rush has bashed McCain and he certainly cannot be associated with him as Obama is with Wright – can he BoF.

The same cannot be said about Obama and Wright. And how about Obama’s other supporters and advisors – on his Campaign – like Mr. West? Ya this is the man for you. Keep giving!

“So what are the political beliefs of this advisor and friend of Obama?

“West has branded the U.S. a "racist patriarchal" nation where "white supremacy" continues to define everyday life. "White America,' he writes, "has been historically weak-willed in ensuring racial justice and has continued to resist fully accepting the humanity of blacks." This has resulted, he claims, in the creation of many "degraded and oppressed people [who are] hungry for identity, meaning, and self-worth." Professor West attributes most of the black community's problems to "existential angst derive[d] from the lived experience of ontological wounds and emotional scars inflicted by white supremacist beliefs and images permeating U.S. society and culture."[8

West describes himself as a "non-Marxist socialist" (partly due to Marx's opposition to religion) and serves as honorary chair of the Democratic Socialists of America, which he has described as "the first multiracial, socialist organization close enough to my politics that I could join". He also described himself as a "radical democrat, suspicious of all forms of authority" on the Matrix-themed documentary.”


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornel_West

http://posthumousluger.com/?p=96

1. Has Limbaugh finally exceeded the limits of 1st Amendment protected speech?

2. If so, should he be forced to ride off into the sunset with the likes of Don Imus and Randi Rhodes?

I think his fans should be the true judge for if he went to far. I don't believe its right for anyone to be fired for being rude, unless its really over top with excessive profanity and whatnot. I'm an advocate for free speech whatever the opinion might be. If I think someone is excessive and over the top, I don't listen to them, and just like that problem solved.

Thats the price some people pay for being polarizing and excessive, the fact that they narrow their own audience to a specific type of listener. For example I wouldn't doubt if 99% of Rush's audience consist of dedicated far right wing conservatives, and perhaps some moderates. I even know conservatives with less than favorable opinions on that guy. Personally I don't listen to him, I just read about him and hear about him. Therefore I couldn't say whether I like him or not, but based on what Ive heard, and what you presented I don't see any reason to shut him down.

Are you sure this doesn't have anything to do with the opinion he speaks being opposite of yours? I'm not going to lie, people like Keith Olbermann and Rosie O'Donnell, tick me off for the same reason. Their opinions are extremely polarizing, often spoken as if the opinion they give is fact, and sometimes the things they say are based on loose evidence. However, stupid people and bias narrow minded opinions are the price we pay far having free speech. That being said Id rather put up with people like that than abandon the principals and rights we have in the first Amendment. I say let them blabber all they want, give that a try with Rush sometime if you feel he is arrogant and over the top, trust me you will feel a lot better just to take comments from certain people with a grain of salt.

You asked for a source Ted and I gave you one.

You are further hijacking this thread by trying to make it about Wright and Obama instead of . Not that I didn't anticipate this happening, but it is still hijacking. Some of you are quite predictable.

If you will notice, you are the firat person to to bring McCain and into the thread. It isn't and never was about that.

This thread was an independent criticism of , until you and a couple of others Hijacked it to denounce Obama and Wright. We already have an adequate number of threads doing that.

I know it's hard, but at least try to stick to the subject.

With the constant offensive trash out there from Daily COS and other blogs there is no basis for even discussing RL comments.

And fyi Imus is back on radio after collecting big money for his breached contract – he laughed all the way to the bank.

Actually, it's the Daily Kos, which is a pretty sure indicator you have no idea what you are talking about.

Regardless, you have hijacked the thread again.

Actually, comparing the trash RL spews and the trash Daily Kos spews is a valid comparison. Both sides have their own way of spewing garbage. Fortunately for Daily Kos, they can use what ever language they want and say pretty much what they want without much responsibility. Those on the radio don't get the same amount of leeway.