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QUOTE(amlord @ May 15 2003, 02:59 PM)
Your economic analogy is a bit flawed, since it was Saddam's window we were breaking and if Iraqi's pay for reconstruction, then it is a win for the American economy (sarcasm there).

No, what is flawed is the argument that there is a silver lining in that the broken window will translate into economic activity for many people. Economists argue that the broken window does not create new jobs or income, it only "diverts" them. "You can see the activity creted by the broken window, but you cannot see the activity that would have otherwise occured had the window no been broken. The baker would have spent the money elsewhere creating real incomce."
It does not matter who the window belongs to in this case, whether it's SH or the USA. How will the Iraqis pay for the war? Will we use their oil to offset the cost? Think of the foreign policy nightmare that will be created by this throughout the Arab world. They already suspect that this is the reason we were so intent on war and agression in Iraq to begin with. The furor created by our seizure of Iraqi oil would be felt in a miriad of ways for quite some time.


Thanks for the welcome amlord!
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It plays right into the hand of our Commander-in-Chief. I would not be surprised if we were still at war around election time. Red, white and blue sells.


Yeah, I get that cynical too. However, we can't be fooled all the time, eh? I suspect that there's a huge risk of oversell where the US public sees through the manipulation and a reverse effect comes about.

I'm expecting WMDs to be uncovered to justify the war. Even though some folks actually believe we went to war primarily to free the Iraqi people, there's a huge logical disconnect to this:

Why wasn't freedom for Iraq part of the Bush presidential campaign? I mean, the festering wound was ten years old then.

No, it wasn't and for good reason. The voters would not have bought this. It would have scared us, like Goldwater scared us (or our parents--depends on your age) with using nukes in Vietnam.

Here's the logic: First, 9/11. That changed everything. Then, Al Qaeda (sp? how the heck is that spelled anyways????)--off to Afghanistan! Then, axis of evil--so long Saddam! And now--what?

Indeed. What next. Can another military activity be sold? Time will tell.

First though, this war has to be justified. I imagine it will be by September of next year. Timing is everything in political campaigns.

The opposition knows this, too. So, I suppose some dirt will come out around then from the other side.
Dark Reaper
the one thing i cant figure out is WHERE IS SADDAM all this went on and he is hidding where could he be...ha he's like the next binladin
Jaime
QUOTE(Dark Reaper @ Nov 3 2003, 10:36 AM)
the one thing i cant figure out is WHERE IS SADDAM all this went on and he is hidding where could he be...ha he's like the next binladin

Please be more constructive than that. It is difficult to debate one-liners, especially off-topic ones.

TOPIC TO DEBATE:
Now the war is largely over, how far do you think humanitarian concern for a people under the yoke of a dictator contributed to British and American motives for the invasion of Iraq?
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