QUOTE(handsomeguy @ Mar 6 2009, 05:14 PM)
I noticed that there are many valid questions that are made up of grammar correct English containing comprehendable subjects and predicates that are being closed because they're considered "vague" without explanations given why they're considered "vague". This really looks like attempts to stifle some debates so that only a select bunch of questions may be debated. If Jamie or whoever else doesn't like specific questions asked, then that should be specified in America's Debate rules.
Your last three closed topics (here
) on the grounds of vagueness had
no debate questions attached. What's more, they looked like they were attempting to address serious political issues yet were posted in Casual Conversation; even if they did have valid debate questions attached - which they didn't - they would have been posted to the wrong forum. BatteryCharged
, you have been a more obviously serious poster than handsomeguy
, and most of your debate topics have been fine from what I've seen. The one recent example you've had closed took "pro-growth" as a concept, but then the debate questions you asked (it always helps to have them) ranged over economic policy, personal standards (are we being made pigs by such policy), environmentalism and then a completely open-ended "what do you think?" type of question.
There's the nub of a good thread there, but the questions are just a tad too wide-ranging to produce much of a focused debate, so it got reported to the staff as vague. The Staff considered it and agreed that it was, so the thread was closed with a note to get in touch to find out more and that if it got reworded to remove the vagueness, it would be reopened. Now, if you can't be bothered to drop someone a line to say "why did my thread get closed" and would prefer that there's a detailed deconstruction of why the opening post was so lacklustre in public (I'm kidding - this particular thread was just a tad woolly; there was no likelihood of anyone wanting to feel "intellectually superior by squashing people" in this particular case) then maybe that would be evidence that the Staff "want to feel intellectually superior by squashing people".
But the wider point is this - very few
to just post nonsense. Unfortunately, this being the internet, some do
, but that's not really what we're talking about here (though handsomeguy
's linked posts above are pretty close to that).
Nearly everybodys -
Staffers included - starts threads here with the best of intentions. That they don't all work out with 100+ posts counts and mentions in the annual
awards just means that we are not all the best judges of our own work. Your own opening posts in a new topic are pretty much bound to be prefectly clear and concise to you
, but the test of vageuness is whether anyone else
can see what it is you want them to talk about. The same is true for my posts, too. And Wertz
and everybody else who ever starts a topic here.
On the internet, nobody can tell you if you have bad breath, but everybody gets bad breath from time to time. In real life, only your closest friends will let you know - everyone else will just pull faces when your back is turned. Once your close friends have
told you, you
are responsible for how you react. You might change your mouthwash, go to your dentist, change your diet (maybe it was a one off caused by a particularly strongly-flavoured restaurant meal the night before?), that kind of thing. Or, you can take it as a personal insult that impugns your integrity as a person and refuse to talk to them again, or you can take it as them bragging about how sweet-smelling their own breath is and laughing up their sleeves, or more openly, at your own exhalations.
Either way, it isn't your friends that have made your breath smell better or made you stomp off in a huff - you
took the action, not them. They just pointed out the necessity for action. It is a matter of manners, that's all - theirs for pointing it out, yours for taking it constructively.
Well, here on
, manners are held in rather higher esteem than practically any other debate site - nearly all of the Rules are just the crystallisation of the kind of manners you would expect - maybe even take for granted - if we were all meeting up in person. Closed thread openers are the equivalent of your friends telling you that you have bad breath - not the equivalent of playground mockery that you appear to be taking it as.
But it's up to you how to take these things. And, in a way, I think it augers well for your future on
that you've stuck to your guns on this thread and spoken up for yourself, rather than just sloping off to another site where life is a bit easier (until the pack turns their tender attentions to you). If you can just try to see Staff interventions as trying to help you make the most of your time on
(and everyone else's), rather than an attempt to intelectually browbeat you, you'd be bang on target.