QUOTE(Paladin Elspeth @ Sep 4 2009, 07:37 PM)
In addition, I know of no other President who would make available beforehand the text of a speech he was going to give to the school children. I just wonder what about Barack Obama makes some folks so fearful, but I'm sure that's good subject matter for another thread.
Oh, I know exactly what it is. I'm sure you do too. It's half due to the authoritarian mindset in these people desperate to see their chosen leaders back in charge, and half because, quite frankly, he's black
and that scares the wits out of people who want to preserve white privilege.
For Pete's sake, he's going to tell the kids to stay in school and do their homework! Is that socialism all of a sudden?
Given the amazing anti-intellectual bent of the Republican Party of late, it actually kind of flows from their rhetoric. Academia is the largest bastion of socialism in the US, doncha know.
QUOTE(Bikerdad @ Sep 4 2009, 07:45 PM)
Bikerdad has called the fact that Bush required loyalty oaths from people to attend his rallies or speeches "slander" without any apparent investigation of their truth, which is easily found:
Actually, I did investigate first just to be sure, although I'll admit to only reading the Slate piece and the WaPo piece. Please, prove from the links you
provided that the Bush Administration had any hand in "loyalty oaths" to Bush, much less oaths of the scope offered
by the celebozos in the video.
You prove my point. You are inured to fact. The links provide the evidence you ask for, and you simply pretend they don't, and to top it off, you shift the goalposts and suddenly demand a comparison of 'scope', subjective though that is.
Again, there can be no rational debate when people on one side simply ignore the facts and invent their own reality. Rational debate requires both sides to be rational.
One side, increasingly, is not.