I’m not sure who out there listens to Rush Limbaugh, if you don’t your missing out on the education you should be getting everyday. But anyway a caller called into on Open Line Friday to protest against Rush’s down talking about the Teachers Union. Well this teacher (2nd grade) provided the ultimate cliché of what is wrong with Americans education system. He rambled on about how little he gets paid (despite knowing that before entering the field of teaching) and about how much money he has to shell out to take the test required.

Boo Hoo….

I am 4 years into College (something teachers are not required to attend) I have paid over $ 16,000.00 for my education not including books, supplies or tests. This is all without parental, government or institutional financial support. Education is not free… nor should it be.

We need to revolt… the public education system of this country is dead.. not dying but dead. We put jack***es like this guy in charge of molding our children’s minds despite his blatant bias and political agenda… He said on the phone that he is trying to teach his students to hate business people and the religious right.

Face it American… the Moral Majority is under attack by these leftist that claim they want to be fair. Well if this teacher want us to be fair allow the parents of the children he is brainwashing choose what school, and what teacher they choose to have teach their kids.

This man is run by a union, they have a lot of money, they give a lot of money to the DNC. The agenda is obvious and they will go to court to block children from leaving inferior schools in order to force the social engineering. They push environmentalism, Two Mommy-ism and anti-capitalism on our children who don’t know any better. While at the same time they force the word GOD out of school, prohibit the Ten Commandments, and discourage free thinking among the disguise of an educational institution.

I need to now cool off…..




On another note I have seen the CBEST (teachers copetency test)
it is discrasefull... questions like 4+4 and eaiser
our teachers know less then the students they teach.

Whew! Take a breath...

While I didn't hear the show today, I do have something to say on the issue of school choice and school vouchers.

What these teachers don't realize is that their precious funding will not decrease -- it will in fact increase per student.

All of the proposed legislation I've run into makes it clear that the actual amount of funding each school receives will not change.

So just for fun (I actually like math), let's run some simple, hypothetical numbers:

American High has 1000 students and gets $2 Million dollars a year Federal funding. That's $2,000 per student.

So vouchers take effect, and let's say 20% of the parents (wisely) decide to send their kids to a private school.

So now, we have 800 students going to the same school, receiving the same $2 Million dollars a year.

That's $2,500 per year per student.

So the school receives 25% more money per student, class sizes are instantly 20% smaller, and public education benefits as a result. Students will have more one-on-one time with their teachers, and teachers will have a smaller workload. Our school system may actually start changing from a social-promotion kid-factory to a competent, comfortable learning environment.

Why exactly do teachers have a problem with this? I'm a product of the public education system, and I can tell that this is a good deal for all (except single people with no kids, like me - you're welcome for paying to educate your kids).

I can't wait until we get some teachers around here!

Mike

It is simple Mike... the reason the teachers do not want the smaller class rooms, and the greater amount of funding is because they will lose controle of their monopoly on education. Just like the post office having a monopoly on all first class mail, sure you can go through UPS or Fed Ex but you you have the money to send all your mail that way.. of course not. So the post office will do it for cheeper (yet they continue to raise the price) and nobody will be denied the "right" to mail.

Education is exacly the same. We give everyone the "right" to an education, while at the same time forcing inadequate institutions and inferior supplies on the childeren who need it the most.

The key term here is social engeneering... if all these kids that at present do not have a choice on where they learn suddenly get a choice they will not choose the present option. And with that loss of attendance the teachers will not be able to tell us that businesses are corrupt and that the rainforest are dying because of us or that if you have and SUV you are an evil person. The controle will be lifted and that is why there is oposition.

Democarats claim to be for the people, the minorities and the "common man" well in todays educational system the minorities and "common man" are the ones getting the short end of the stick...

Besides what you guys are arguing, the reason why our schools are pumping out low quality product is the simply motivation. The teacher's aren't stupid. I went through high school with the attitude of I will learn what I want and I will get by knowing as little as possible or cheating my way through the rest of my classes. Now that I somehow found myself in college I am choosing to put effort into my education and as much as teacher's point you in the right direction ultimately it's you that makes the decision to learn or not. I think that high school shouldn't even be as long as it is. I would have no problem with it ending at 10th grade...

I will now post this and wait for someone cough "mike" cough to respond...

Limpubus-

Now I agree with some of what you said, but disagree with some of it as well.

I skated through highschool on common sense. I never did homework. I don't think I've read a single work of fiction (what's the point, really? )

Most of the classes just didn't excite me.

But, I did have some classes that did. I had some teachers that made it their goal to create a spark in every student. And it worked. I love grammar. I love math. I love science. I can name one or more teachers responsible for that.

I do think that part of the problem is the lack of disciplinary tools provided to the teachers. Kids need to be pushed into line sometimes.

The other part of the problem is the parents. This should be an entire different topic, but I'll go on anyways.

The (buzz word) "Moral Decline" of our country is evident in the news every day.

Teachers contact parents regarding their child's progress, or lack of it. While many parents are legitimately concerned and involved in their child's live, many are not. And at the same time, many parents feel their kids have a "right to good grades" and a "right to participate in after school events".

This, again, is evidented by the stories that our representatives in the media have chosen to publicize.

I saw a story the other day about a girl who wanted to be a cheerleader. She was kicked off the team. The reasons as to why she was kicked off doesn't really matter.

What matters is her and her parents' response. They are suing the school for $25 million dollars.

Please, someone tell me, how does this help her education? What will she learn from this? I think it's a bad lesson.

Another case in the news:

A parent threatend the school that if their child didn't receive passing grades, they would sue. They had their attorney send threatening letters to all child's teachers who tried to teach their idiot child.

One of the teachers didn't think this was right. She presented it to the school board, who ordered her, in order to avoid a lawsuit, to give the child passing grades.

So this kid's parents blackmailed you and I, the tax payers. Thes kid's parents obfuscated the system. And now, with any luck, this kid will get a scholarship or we'll give them a grant so they can blackmail the college as well.

The teacher, and even moreso the school board, are also in the wrong. The teacher is a member of a union. Unions are there to protect their members, and push their agends.

This teacher should have failed this student. Their union should have backed them up. If the union truly believes in the education of America, they should have insisted that the child be failed.

These school boards have come up with zero-tolerance policies on a range of issues, like drugs and weapons. How about a zero-tolerance policy on blackmail and extortion?




Starting a new topic on this one!

Mike

Good point about the parents Mike...

in Arizona where teachers were acutally doing their job, a teacher sent a note home informing a parent that she was planning on holding back a student from granduation due to lack of adequate grade in the class....

Promptly the teacher recieved a letter back, this time from a lawer stating that the teacher would be sued is the student does indeed fail.

Well the final result was that the teacher stood her ground, the school got sued... the school district suspended the teacher (who was in the right) and allowed the student to graduate (despite inadequate grades).

Lovely isn't it....

Senior year of high school i graduated with a 4.0 for the year and a 3.88 for the career. The thing is that i went to only 25 days of the final semester... missing soem 50+ days to lay at the beach.... this should not have happened... school should have been challenging, or they should have known that i was not challanged...