Full Version: Bush signs African AIDS relief bill
QUOTE(Eeyore @ Jul 29 2003, 02:54 PM)
There must be some kind of problem in Africa that is a lot like an "EPIDEMIC" because 23 million people have died of something there in recent years.
This is a problem that will have dramatic global proportions to it if we cannot find the compassion and will to try to deal with it.
Africa AIDS Death Count
This is a problem that will have dramatic global proportions to it if we cannot find the compassion and will to try to deal with it.
Africa AIDS Death Count
Oh Eeyore, don't get me wrong, I know that people in Africa are dying, however I want to know WHY they are truly dying. If it is AIDS, then let's help do something about that. If it's not AIDS but rather malaria, tuberculosis, whatever, let's do something about that. Claiming that it's AIDS without accurate measures of testing (and with such extremely loose terms of "diagnosis") is merely placing emphasis on old stereotypes of the "sex-crazed" Africans, IMO. Sounds great when we have a way to "solve" the problem that involves promoting abstinence/safe sex, but is it true? The stats from any AIDS death count are simple inaccurate based upon the manner in which AIDS is diagnosed in Africa.
I am trying to find the statistics I just saw while looking for my above information about AIDS in Europe and condom use/sexual promiscuity in those countries. In comparing the figures, countries with the highest rates of condom use and lowest amount of "sexual promiscuity" had the highest AIDS incidences (France was one of them). The lowest incidences of AIDS were in countries with minimal condom use and high sexual promiscuity. Here I just found the stats on AIDS in Europe now I just need to find the stats on condom use/sexual promiscuity. Aha! Durex Global Sex Survey - Unsafe sex & Durex Global Sex Survey - Contraception. Sure would seem to say that AIDS and sex aren't as closely linked as we may think. Admittedly it might not be the best scientific study
but if we're blaming this "AIDS epidemic" in Africa on promiscuous sex, it might be nice to see some proof of both promiscuity AND HIV/AIDS presence with more than four symptoms that can be attributed to ANYTHING.
I suspect the main reason is that one of Bushes close male "friends" reportedly suffers from AIDS and is pressuring his "friend" to do something about it.
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/ootar22.html
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Failure to successfully investigate the sizeable number of U.S. Secret Service agents who have lately and mysteriously resigned. O'Neill failed to adequately find out and failed to shut them up. Some ex-agents confirm to media sources, in confidence, that they are fed up with the sexual perversions of George W. Bush, including traveling around with his long-time male sex-mate. Bush and this person, mayor of a sizeable city, rendezvous at a certain lounge.
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/ootar22.html
Thomas puhleez!!!??
When throwing out accusations against world leaders try to lean on credibility. This is pure flaming.
Let's look at the credibility of this site.
Not credible.
When throwing out accusations against world leaders try to lean on credibility. This is pure flaming.
Let's look at the credibility of this site.
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Failure to successfully investigate the sizeable number of U.S. Secret Service agents who have lately and mysteriously resigned. O'Neill failed to adequately find out and failed to shut them up. Some ex-agents confirm to media sources, in confidence, that they are fed up with the sexual perversions of George W. Bush, including traveling around with his long-time male sex-mate. Bush and this person, mayor of a sizeable city, rendezvous at a certain lounge purportedly owned by a major financier of Os ama bin Laden, demonized by Bush as the cause of most problems of the U.S., despite the fact that the Bush Crime Family has been in business with the bin Laden Family including Osama who they are NOT on the outs with.
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Failure by the U.S. Secret Service, part of the U.S. Treasury, to keep secret a previously not publicized film, together with documents, tending to show that Daddy Bush was instrumental in the plot to assassinate President John F. Kennedy. [An FBI do cument, dated November 29, 1963, circulated by us and a few others, tends to show the elder Bush was part of the JFK plot cover up.]
Not credible.
I agree with Eeyore, Thomas. That link is quite inflammatory and I don't see what it has to do with the topic of debate here.
I wasn’t being inflammatory since I said “I suspect”, in other words possible if controversial reasoning behind his surprise move.
The author of that series is well connected in Washington, not some lone conspiracy theorist: whose job is to uncover corruption and crime within the American judiciary.
Anyway, Bush wouldn’t be the first president to have surprising sexual lifestyles hidden from the American public…
The author of that series is well connected in Washington, not some lone conspiracy theorist: whose job is to uncover corruption and crime within the American judiciary.
Anyway, Bush wouldn’t be the first president to have surprising sexual lifestyles hidden from the American public…
QUOTE(Thomas @ Jul 29 2003, 10:41 AM)
Anyway, Bush wouldn’t be the first president to have surprising sexual lifestyles hidden from the American public…
And what does that have to do with the topic?
In answer to the thread, whatever reason why Bush has pushed through this legislation, I don't beleive that the president did it for genuinely humanitarian reasons. Whether it is to curry favour with African-American voters, a strategic move to appeal to Africans as America starts to involve themselves in African oil, whatever reason, my answer is NO.
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