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And along with the title question goes Marx's dictim “The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force.”

This fellow below plays with the above concept and offers some of his own positives and negatives

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[From Marx] "The individuals composing the ruling class possess among other things consciousness, and therefore think. Insofar, therefore, as they rule as a class and determine the extent and compass of an epoch, it is self-evident that they do this in its whole range, hence among other things rule also as thinkers, as producers of ideas, and regulate the production and distribution of the ideas of their age: thus their ideas are the ruling ideas of the epoch.”
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“during the time that the aristocracy was dominant, the concepts honour, loyalty, etc. were dominant, during the dominance of the bourgeoisie the concepts freedom, equality, etc.”..... "In an age and in a country where royal power, aristocracy, and bourgeoisie are contending for mastery and where, therefore, mastery is shared, the doctrine of the separation of powers proves to be the dominant idea and is expressed as an ‘eternal law’”


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Their status as ruling ideas means that they are adopted by (virtually) all members of the society, but that the actions of those guided by those ideas serve only the interests of the ruling class. The ruling class, therefore, is parasitic relative to the other classes, in that its members do nothing “productive” but, rather, are supported by the other members of the society. Thus, members of classes other than the ruling class act, not in their interests, but in the interests of the ruling class. This means that members of the ruling class are “freeloaders,” but not clearly recognized as such by members of the underlying population—which fact enables relative peace to exist within the society, and forestalls actions, on the part of the underlying population, that might disturb the status quo.


Questions for discussion and no it doesn't have to reference Marxism. He just happens to loom large historically in the discussion.

Do you believe that most societies, I'm particularly interested in ones with democratic structures, have an identifiable ruling class? Explain.

Do you believe that most people chronically vote against their own interests and if so why is that?

If you feel there is a problem with concentrated power in the hands of an elite, what change would you like to see in the future and how would you get us there?
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Eeyore
Do you believe that most societies, I'm particularly interested in ones with democratic structures, have an identifiable ruling class? Explain.

If the intent of the question is, Does an elite group run the country? Then the answer is yes. We have a system that is democratic capitalism and it is designed to protect the average voter and property.

Do you believe that most people chronically vote against their own interests and if so why is that?

I think that people vote for a lot of reasons. They vote for issues, they vote for ideas. They vote for their economic interests. And in a complex world some of these different reasons for voting work against an individuals economic interests.

If you feel there is a problem with concentrated power in the hands of an elite, what change would you like to see in the future and how would you get us there?

The best way to level he playing field is to pull money out of elections. Publicly funded elections and primaries with no option of bringing in outside money.
People also need to feel a need to watch out for the dominance of this economic elite and to vote against it.

The next thing would be to make political lobbying and government ethics rules more democratic in the sense that influence of government officials should be based on votes, not money or future jobs.

There are reasons to vote along with the economic elite in this country. There have always been votes for the business of America is business crowd. This would not be a revolution, but it would help get rid of the extra influence that those with wealth have in influencing the election of representatives and in making decisions.

Like regulation it is an issue that requires commitment and diligence because all rules and policies can be gamed to give the illusion of a function or to help further the opposite of the intended result (i.e. fox in the henhouse regulation of the SEC)

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Do you believe that most societies, I'm particularly interested in ones with democratic structures, have an identifiable ruling class? Explain.

The Golden Rule: Those with the gold make the rules. However, it's supposed to work in democracies that people of differing viewpoints have the gold, and so there's supposed to be tension with no particular ideology making all the rules.

Do you believe that most people chronically vote against their own interests and if so why is that?

Yes, and it's from double-talk, propaganda, false issues, fear mongering and generally pulling the wool. On the other hand, the ruses fall apart as the bad stuff falls out of the policies, and so people come to see that they've been voting against their own interests.

If you feel there is a problem with concentrated power in the hands of an elite, what change would you like to see in the future and how would you get us there?

I would eliminate PACs, phony nonprofits and any other vehicle created to bring more money into the political process other than severely limited private contributions. I would get us there the same way we got here in the first place, via the legislative process. This would also require amending the Constitution to allow severely limiting private contributions.

I would break The Golden Rule as stated above.

Something has to be done about lobbyists too. That's money influence after the elections, and somehow we need to know what's going on. What might the method be? All meetings with lobbyists must be recorded and put into the public record? I'm not sure how to get there from here.
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