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ConservPat
What do you think? Frankly, I say bring it on, Gore does not scare me at all, for more information on Gore's campaign go to his website at www.I.invented.the.internet.itwasmyidea.com laugh.gif

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quarkhead
Ha ha ha.

Gore doesn't scare me either. Bush does. I guess that's a couple of points for Gore then. Nice of you to join us! tongue.gif
ConservPat
QUOTE(quarkhead @ Jun 13 2003, 05:28 PM)
Ha ha ha.

Gore doesn't scare me either. Bush does. I guess that's a couple of points for Gore then. Nice of you to join us! tongue.gif

Oh I see. Gore didn't mean to say it, it was just a stupid mistake. Strange how Bush doesn't get away with these, hmmm, but that is for a different thread. Can to elaborate on why Gore should run.

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quarkhead
Would you really say Gore "got away with it?" Most people think he said "I invented the internet." He is also not the current president. In what way did he get away with it, exactly?

On the other hand, Bush has made many stupid mistakes. So far he's getting away with them just fine.

So... come again? biggrin.gif

Gore might make a better candidate than the other top Dems. He has a strong platform, he just needs to be sure not to say a word about the 2000 election.

Since making fun of Gore was so integral to your topic, and you are a fairly staunch conservative, what is your purpose in starting this thread? Obviously you're not going to see much to like in a Gore campaign.
ConservPat
QUOTE(quarkhead @ Jun 13 2003, 05:43 PM)
Would you really say Gore "got away with it?" Most people think he said "I invented the internet." He is also not the current president. In what way did he get away with it, exactly?

On the other hand, Bush has made many stupid mistakes. So far he's getting away with them just fine.

So... come again? biggrin.gif

When I say get away with it I mean, he takes almost no abuse for it. Bush is poked fun at around the world for his "Bushisms". But back to the question so we don't get closed, why do you think Gore should run in '04?

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bd123
Gore in '04, I've said in a nother topic, that was about pretty much same thing "A Democratic president on '04 ? keep dreaming! ppl are sick of the liberals and all their Hypocrisy!"

So Why make a new topic about it ? look a little harder for the topics.
Rattlesnake
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When I say get away with it I mean, he takes almost no abuse for it.


When he was running, he did. When he for some reason pops up in the news, he does. In fact, if there's even a story that even remotly rouches on the internet, you're sure to see something about that quote in a late-night monolouge. You don't watch SNL or Leno much, do you tongue.gif ?

Bush, on the other hand, is in the news almost every day, and makes stupid remarks almost every week, so it's no wonder his get more "press" (read:comedy) coverage.


Anyway, on topic, I think Gore, if he could be a real Democrat instead of one of those Blue Dog types, would make a find canidate. He seems to be level-headed and acceptable to America. I mean, the people of the US did elect him President once. He should run with the slogan "Re-Elect Gore. Half a million more people voted for him than Bush last time!"


BTW, bd, that's not a constructive response.
Paladin Elspeth
Yeah, I think the "inventer of the Internet" should run against Mr. Bush.

Mr. Bush never said anything as stupid as that! He said,

"They want the federal government controlling Social Security like it's some kind of federal program."--USA TODAY, November 3, 2000

"The legislature's job is to write law. It's the executive branch's job to interpret law."--Austin, Texas, November 22, 2000, Slate

"I'm trying to protect my invest---my contributors from unscrupulous practices."--Houston Chronicle, July 18, 1998

"You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test."--Townsend, Tennessee, February 21, 2001: The New Republic,
March 5, 2001

Clearly, Mr. Bush is the brighter, more capable man with a greater knowledge of government and a true grasp of the importance of education. whistling.gif rolleyes.gif

Gore might not be as charismatic as Bush, but he did serve as Senator and as Vice President, and though he was "only a photographer" he actually was in Vietnam, not AWOL for a year during his tour of duty. And he knows a hell of a lot more about the environment. cool.gif



(These quotations were found in THE BUSH DYSLEXICON by Mark Crispin Miller)

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nighttimer
ermm.gif Gore has already declared publicly that he will not be a candidate in 2004.

I don't see the point here. The question has already been asked and answered and it was a resounding "NO."
ConservPat
QUOTE(nighttimer @ Jun 14 2003, 04:52 AM)
ermm.gif Gore has already declared publicly that he will not be a candidate in 2004.

I don't see the point here.  The question has already been asked and answered and it was a resounding "NO."

The question isn't is he running, it's should he.

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ConservPat
Sorry for the consecutive posts. Quark, I wanted to see whether or not Conservatives were afraid of Gore, and why Liberals like him so much.

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Paladin Elspeth
Sorry, guys. I know that Gore has already said "no," but the potential for having fun here was too great. laugh.gif

Gore does not appear to be a glutton for punishment. It was a bloody, dirty fight in 2000, and I count myself among a number of people who maintain that the election should have gone to Al Gore.

So much water under the bridge now.
Izdaari
No, I'm not afraid of Gore. No doubt he'd run a stronger campaign this time but Bush is in a much stronger position and in my estimation shouldn't have a harder time with Gore than with most other likely Democrats. I'll concur with Wertz that Bob Graham would be the most formidable Democratic opponent.
AuthorMusician
Nope, Gore should not run in '04.

The Dems need to hammer out their messages, get behind one team, and campaign like the dickens. I'm still leaning toward Howard Dean as the frontman.

Who "invented" the Internet? Well, actually no one person did. But who coined the phrase "Information Superhighway"? That goes to Gore. He envisioned the Internet as it is today--a primary source of information, collaboration, and commerce--back when some conservatives didn't know how a supermarket scanner worked, and back when only Unix weenies used the Net (and back when I was a card-carrying mainframe bigot).

Just FYI, Vinton Serf is known as the father of the Internet.

And I still think the Unix boxes are toys compared to mainframes. Eh, that doesn't matter any longer.

Anyway, I liked Gore (and still do) because of his vision for America's future. I don't like GWB for the same reason--his vision is lacking. If the Demos get a guy who can promote the progressive vision, they've got my vote.

So what is the progressive vision? We've got the Internet--but where can it go from here? That's one part. We've got a healthcare system in dire need of redesign--that's another. We have a federal government out of control on foreign policy and ineffective on terrorism control. It may even be swayed by the politically active religious folks too much. And then there's the environment along with energy policy. And the economy. Yep, plenty to work with here!
Rattlesnake
Here's a poem created with actual quotes my George W. Bush:

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MAKE THE PIE HIGHER
by George W. Bush

I think we all agree, the past is over.
This is still a dangerous world.
It's a world of madmen and uncertainty
and potential mental losses.

Rarely is the question asked
Is our children learning?
Will the highways of the Internet become more few?
How many hands have I shaked?

They misunderestimate me.
I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity.
I know that the human being and the fish can coexist.
Families is where our nation finds hope, where our wings take dream.

Put food on your family!
Knock down the tollbooth!
Vulcanize society!
Make the pie higher! Make the pie higher!
johnlocke
Of all the people that want to run against Bush and would lose miserably, Gore takes the cake. I would love to see Americans be even more sick of him and I would love to see him fail miserably. Too bad he wouldn't run. what about odd eight? Does it belong to Hillary? sour.gif
Nu Marx
QUOTE(johnlocke @ Jun 15 2003, 10:49 AM)
what about odd eight? Does it belong to Hillary? sour.gif

I think you meant to say "aught-eight."
Paladin Elspeth
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Of all the people that want to run against Bush and would lose miserably, Gore takes the cake. I would love to see Americans be even more sick of him and I would love to see him fail miserably. Too bad he wouldn't run. what about odd eight? Does it belong to Hillary? 




Geez, what's the deal against Gore?

Your boy Bush is President; what's with this leftover animosity? He lost the fight, now you want to bludgeon him to death?

"To the victor go the spoils," and also the derision. It's the American way!
Rancid Uncle
I never liked Bore or Gush. Gore can't beat Bush we know that. Many democrats want someone like Dean who might have something to say other than "I agree."
Greenring7
Bore did beat Gush. Gush just had his friends in the supreme court hold the prize until the clock timed down and *then* hiked the ball.

I mean, after all, what did the conservative majority of the supreme court and Bush have to loose? rolleyes.gif

George W. Bush:

- 50,456,002 Total Votes
- 47.87%

Al Gore:

- 50,999,897
- 48.38%

(source: www.fec.gov)

Oh... but that's right. The Jewish section of Florida is secretly a hotbed of Buchanan supporters blink.gif

-Robert
stotty203
One thing to bear in mind from 2000 is that Gore failed to carry his home state here in Tennessee. smile.gif
understandingpolitics
Time to concentrate on the candidates that are running, moving on...if Gore had wanted to run, or had thought that he could win, he would have run, I think the "Draft Gore" proposals are distracting people from the real candidates and the real issues...

Editted because I can't spell...
AuthorMusician
Rattlesnake,

Man, that is beautiful! I'm gonna print it out in fancy fonts and get a frame smile.gif
Rattlesnake
I think "I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity" is the best, don't you?
AuthorMusician
Rattlesnake,

Yep, a pitbull humping that pantleg--what an opportunity!
GoAmerica
QUOTE(stotty203 @ Jun 15 2003, 11:20 PM)
One thing to bear in mind from 2000 is that Gore failed to carry his home state here in Tennessee.  smile.gif

That was sad. I wonder what the reason for that was.

I honestly can't see the nation electing Hillary. Hillary is a demanding, stuck-up & everyone in New York hates hermore than they do Pataki or Bloomberg
TennesseeLeftWinger
QUOTE(goamerica @ Jun 17 2003, 12:32 PM)
QUOTE(stotty203 @ Jun 15 2003, 11:20 PM)
One thing to bear in mind from 2000 is that Gore failed to carry his home state here in Tennessee.   smile.gif

That was sad. I wonder what the reason for that was.


The reason for that is because Tennessee (at least East Tennessee) is full of Conservatives/Baptists who wouldn't vote Democrat if Al Gore was the last candidate on Earth. Needless to say, I saw it coming long before the election, and the fact that he didn't carry really didn't surprise me.
kevinsbailey
Al Gore lost my respect when he went from being a pro-life, conservative Democrat to what he has morphed into today. Therefore, I hope he runs, gets his tail kicked, and drops off the face of the Democratic political map for good.

I wish John Breaux would run. I would vote for him.

Kevin S. Bailey
Billy Jean
It won't happen, he already said he wouln't run. sad.gif
kevinsbailey
QUOTE(Billy Jean @ Jul 18 2003, 04:30 PM)
It won't happen, he already said he wouln't run.  sad.gif

I know. It's just wishful thinking. But, I DO think he is far more electable than anyone put forward so far.

Kevin
Billy Jean
Oh yeah I totally agree. None of the guys running right now have a chance. It would be nice if we could have a rematch between Bush and Gore! laugh.gif Gore would wipe the floor with him!
kevinsbailey
QUOTE(Billy Jean @ Jul 18 2003, 05:44 PM)
Oh yeah I totally agree.  None of the guys running right now have a chance.  It would be nice if we could have a rematch between Bush and Gore! laugh.gif  Gore would wipe the floor with him!

Are you crazy? Gore has slipped since last time in popularity. Do you REALLY think he could POSSIBLY beat Bush?

Kevin
Jaime
QUOTE(kevinsbailey @ Jul 18 2003, 01:47 PM)
Are you crazy?

No reason to insinuate anyone is crazy for disagreeing with you. My guess is you know very little of Billy Jean's mental status; Let's be civil flowers.gif
kevinsbailey
QUOTE(Jaime @ Jul 18 2003, 05:50 PM)
QUOTE(kevinsbailey @ Jul 18 2003, 01:47 PM)
Are you crazy?

No reason to insinuate anyone is crazy for disagreeing with you. My guess is you know very little of Billy Jean's mental status; Let's be civil flowers.gif

Ummm ... it's a saying? One meaning, "You were using very little logic in your last post." Nothing uncivil there! ;-)

Kevin
Billy Jean
Actually, I am crazy. Crazy for FanaticShelley! wub.gif

Anyway whistling.gif

Bush has proven his ineptude and I think if Gore were to throw his hat into the race, he would definatly give Bush a run for his money. happy.gif
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