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nileriver
is it wrong per say, for people of a certin religion to think they can understand or think like thier god. More or less what i am trying to say here, say you have a christian or a jew or a hindu, for that person to think that they can think like or understand reality through or what thier god may be thinking. To espouse on it further, do you think this could have very large impacts say comeing from a person that holds power. Is this a good or bad thing. question.gif
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QUOTE(nileriver @ Jul 16 2003, 10:32 PM)
is it wrong per say, for people of a certin religion to think they can understand or think like thier god. More or less what i am trying to say here, say you have a christian or a jew or a hindu, for that person to think that they can think like or understand reality through or what thier god may be thinking. To espouse on it further, do you think this could have very large impacts say comeing from a person that holds power. Is this a good or bad thing. question.gif

Bad because it is kind of like an Anti-Abortion person who blows up an abortion clinic and kills abortion doctors because in their catholic or christian belief, they think that abortion is murder, adn there is a commandment that says "Do not kill"

Is this what you mean in a way?
nileriver
in a way yes, in a way no. like that person could think, god wants me, or would want me to do this. I think its a danger myself, what if someone gets in power and says god would want this war, or god choose us over you, or something mentally impaired like that. Lets say for a second that the shiva is real, and a follower, a human in his or her head could say or believe that they could understand what a god or deity thinks, its scary to me.
Victoria Silverwolf
I think I see what you are getting at. You seem to be describing a person without any doubt whatsoever about the will of a deity. Such people, in my view, are fanatics. If we are lucky, they will be fanatics about being peaceful and kind. History shows, however, that this is not always the case. A person with at least some doubt about their religious beliefs is unlikely to become a religious terrorist.
nileriver
Yes, a religious terrorist would be a nice example biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(nileriver @ Jul 17 2003, 12:55 AM)
Yes, a religious terrorist would be a nice example biggrin.gif

That's what i was explaining in my post. Good to know i get it right
Bikerdad
It is not wrong, per se.

It may be, it may not. On the other hand, a blanket condemnation is wrong.
Billy Jean
For my own personal beliefs, to be a Christian is to be Christ-like. In other words, Jesus' life was a pattern on how to live ones life by: Peace, love, acceptance, charity, being selfless, tollerance and equality. Atleast that's what my interpretation of His teachings are.
I think that God wants us to be more perfect, by trying to live by those examples I gave above. That, to me would be more "God-like" in our mind and heart. biggrin.gif
EarlessBunny
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is it wrong per say, for people of a certin religion to think they can understand or think like thier god.


No, not necessarily. Like Bikerdad said, to make a blanket statement saying that it's wrong would not be true. But, it has the potential to be wrong or dangerous in certain situations. Radicals in any religion can take their beliefs too far and endager others in the process, all in the name of their god.

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For my own personal beliefs, to be a Christian is to be Christ-like. In other words, Jesus' life was a pattern on how to live ones life by: Peace, love, acceptance, charity, being selfless, tollerance and equality. Atleast that's what my interpretation of His teachings are.
I think that God wants us to be more perfect, by trying to live by those examples I gave above. That, to me would be more "God-like" in our mind and heart.


This is a good point. I guess a safe answer to the question here is to say that it is not wrong to try to understand one's god and try to think like him, especially when it betters the person without imposing radical beliefs on others. Of course, at least in Christianity, we know that it is impossible to understand God and His works and plans...but striving to try is not a bad thing. Does that make sense?
Cephus
QUOTE(nileriver @ Jul 17 2003, 03:32 AM)
is it wrong per say, for people of a certin religion to think they can understand or think like thier god. More or less what i am trying to say here, say you have a christian or a jew or a hindu, for that person to think that they can think like or understand reality through or what thier god may be thinking. To espouse on it further, do you think this could have very large impacts say comeing from a person that holds power. Is this a good or bad thing. question.gif

I was in Barnes & Noble yesterday and a particular individual was hanging out near the religious books loudly debating religion with anyone who walked by. He kept saying "Jesus thinks..." and "God wants..." and I was really tempted to go over and ask him how he knows what Jesus thinks and God wants. Has he seen them lately? What were they wearing?
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pheeler
To believe unconditionally that you know what God wants is dangerous. Many people are convinced they hear the voice of God, and it is probably only a minute percentage that actually do. The rest are either insane or fanatics who have fooled themselves into believing that their own ego (or superego) is actually God. IMO, God does not ask people to do huge things like blow up an abortion clinic or even start a campaign against abortion and try to abolish it. He usually asks for much smaller contributions and in less visible forms (i.e. the forgiveness of a certain individual or some other such change in yourself). It never says in the Bible that Christians should try to change the world, in fact it says that the world will grow more and more against traditional Christian values. It does charge Christians with the task of spreading the news, but I don't think that means we should force the gospel on anyone. So basically, people who use God's will as justification for such actions are confused about what God would ask a person to do.
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