Tell me doesn't a race that considor themselves "gods choosen people" seem a little racist to you? And since this race is "gods choosen people" the should be able to displace anyone they want?

I love how Palestinian sympathizers leave out the other half of the story. The IDF had started "Operation Root Control" that takes out the smuggling tunnels. These tunnels were/are being used to transport Stinger missiles in from Egypt. STINGERS for Pete's sake. You know, these things that could take down helicopters and civilian airliners???

So the Pals start shooting back to defend the tunnels and get killed. And what happens? Somebody here acts like the IDF targeted innocents - as usual. Israel made and is making perfectly reasonable responses to the terrorists acts against it. Cutting off the weapons flow saves innocent lives on BOTH sides.

You should be applauding the efforts in Rafiah if you were truly interested in saving the lives of innocents.

No, it doesn't. Many people and races have considered themselves anointed, or chosen, by their deity. It's not something I subscribe to, but it certainly doesn't meet my standard of racism. Israel conducting itself in it's own self interest does not constitute anything other than survival.

Yes all 1000 homeless families were Pal. sympathizers. Tell me when was the last time you saw stinger missles used in Pal. to shoot down civilian aircraft? And your telling me one of the most advanced armies had to destroy countless homes to destroy these tunnels?

Well I consider anything that deems me inferior at birth with no proof racists. So what if other races considor themselves anointed, it doesn't make them right. Thats like Hitler was ok for saying blues eyes and blond hair was a dominat race. And as far as survival goes they are doing more than survivng. Sharon has establish over 50 illegal settlements since he took office. Usually when someone is trying to survive they are losing ground not taking it.

Yes. I believe something like that was attempted last year exactly (give or take a few days) in Africa(?)



That and when ever Israel has a bad day & they decide to knock off a Hamas leader who is driving down a street, they accidently kill a civilan, the whole world (except us) goes nuclear. Everyone thinks Israel does this for kicks and they call them terrorists, meanwhile, Arafat won't let his PM's tell the PA to go take out Hamas militants.

DTM



Care to give some examples of who you have in mind?

Well I just thought I should bring up a few articles that irks me.
Houston Chronicle
This article is very misleading. The headline is "Sharon wants to ease tension with Palestinians" but says "Additionally, I don't rule out unilateral steps" while the arabs who initiated the conference get noo credit at all. here's another version. The BBC


The BBC
Can you find anything like this in a US news paper? They never show any of the Israeli misdeeds, but I bet when a terrorist strikes tomorrow it will be on the front page CNN, Fox, and the other usual suspects.

Both sides need to come to the table to negotiate. Israel must stop the building of settlements on occupied territory and the Palestinians need to control Hammas. Then there is a chance for peace. Other than that the Palestinians have little chance to have a homeland.

Could someone please fill me in on what exactly the greenline is? Thanks

Stopping the settlements: Maybe

Controlling Hamas: HA HA HA

The settlments pop up for everyone taken down. Controlling Hamas is like trying to stop an inferno with spit. Hamas is just too powerful to be controlled

The racist National Party government of South Africa took plenty of actions in its own interest to try to ensure the survival of a white ruled country. The fact it was fighting for its survival did not make it any less racist.

Here are three policies of Israel which are clearly racist:

Immigration: an Arab whose parents were born in what is now Israel is blocked from entering the country, whereas Jews who have no recent family links to Israel/Palestine can settle there.

Mobility within Israel/Palestine: Jews living in the West Bank (i.e. settlers) can move freely throughout Israel and the West Bank. Arabs living in the West Bank are subject to severe restrictions on their movements.

Demolitions of Arab homes: the Jerusalem municipal authorities discriminate against Arabs in Jerusalem by demolishing their homes for supposed building violations. The municipality's own data shows that there are more than five times as many building violations in Jewish West Jerusalem as in Arab East Jerusalem and yet in 2001 five times as many homes were destroyed in East Jerusalem as in West Jerusalem - see link: http://www.rebuildinghomes.org/wl/pj-beit-...ves/000122.html

For me, condeming both sides for their equally outrageous behaviour rather than taking action against one side is the only way to go. This conflict is bad enough, but it is being fuelled by American support for Israel. Yes, I want to see an end to conflict, and do not condone terrorism. At present, the world (and in particular the Muslim world) looks at the situation and sees America condoning violence. No point trying to justify it, that is how it is. And for me, its morally wrong. In that case, if I think America is doing something that goes against my morals, should I be supporting military intervention against America? Afterall, that is the lesson we learn from America.

We intervene in conflicts and support who we do because its our moral obligation. Ive heard that over and over. Moral obligation? Whose morals? Not mine. So basically what is being said is one group of morals - dictatoral decisions. I coulnd't possibly support any group or nation that is acting in such a manner (Israel I mean). Terrorist attacks are no excuse in my book. Violence is violence.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...lestinians_1541

If this doesn't start the Mid East peace process back down the right path, nothing will. And if Hammas and the PLO attack now, then it's obvious that Palestine doesn't want peace.

Look at the link I provided 3 days ago. The "terrorist groups" have been talking about peace for a few days now.

Actually, these are KNOWN terrorist groups, no quotation marks needed , thankyou.

http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/rpt/fto/2001/5258.htm

Yes...but how long will it last? How do we know it is not a reason to stall so these terrorist groups can re-build themselves? During their little offensive a couple weeks ago ago, Israel killed a lot of Hamas leaders. How do we know that Hamas is not just trying to get more leaders to start the whole thing? Or are they waiting for Hanakuah or Thanksgiving to start up again?

How do we know that Israel won't continue to build settlements in W.Bank and Gaza? How do we know they won't shut down an economic center?

Well, I hate to tell you I told you so but: