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Billy Jean
http://www.msnbc.com/news/975847.asp?0cl=cR

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But today North Korean defectors number in the tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands — the full scope of the exodus is not clear. They sneak across the river to China, where they live as fugitives, or flee through deserts or jungles to Mongolia, Burma or Thailand.
       Their accounts have gained credibility by their number and their consistency, and by corroboration from the few outsiders who have worked in North Korea. In dozens of interviews in Seoul over two years, defectors painted a picture of cruelty, hardship and repression that made escape seem their only option, no matter the cost.
       They often escape with the cruel knowledge that they have doomed their loved ones still inside. Leaving North Korea illegally is a high crime; going to South Korea is considered treason. Families — even distant relatives — of those who do so might be blacklisted, stripped of their jobs, imprisoned or killed. Many find freedom more complicated than they imagined, and their present haunted by the past.


Are there major human rights violations going on in North Korea? Should we (the US) speak out not only on their WMD but their human rights abuses? Is N Korea really an "axis of evil?" And, is North Korea in Americas sites in the near future?
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Amlord
North Korea has been one of the most brutal places to live for over a decade.

Rampant starvation, malnourishment, political torture and execution. All the classic things that human rights groups rail against.

Here is Amnesty International's take: Amnesty International: North Korea

North Korea is truly one of the stinkholes of the earth. It is definitely a part of the Axis of Evil.
SoCaliente_1
North Korea is one of the most if not the most "closed" or isolated nations on the planet.
no one (china or S.Korea) seems to want these "escapees."

I am not for the US going alone...yet again to save more people from yet another brutal-bent-on-wmd-building-to-the-disregard-of-everything-else-while-they-live-in-the-lap-of-luxury Authoritarian govt.

If the UN, NATO, the "supremeness" themselves...the French, German, Russia, China...our so called Allies in the UN see Kim Sung Il as a criminal against humanity then by all means let them STEP UP.

I certainly won't hold my breath. At the end of the day, as usual, it most likely WILL be the US and the UK to actually do more than give the usual lip-service coming from the UN.

My sympathies though to the North koreans for risking death while trying to escape the utter mess their govt had made of their country.
campbejm
I looked up statistics about N.K. for another thread on the CIA's web site. (www.cia.gov, Click on the World Factbook link on the left). Turns out North Korea spends about 30% of its GDP on military. This is exactly what caused such poverty in the U.S.S.R.

I'm sure it is a horrible place to live. To put that in perspective the U.S. spends 3% of GDP on the military and we are one of the higher countries on the list.

Those people need help. They need to be saved from Kim-jong-Il.


Edited to include:
Jamie just sent me a PM with this link. I think this picture speaks volumes about the management of North Korea by Kim-Jong-Il. It is a satalite picture of the Korean peninsula at night.


N.K. in the dark.
Rev_DelFuego
and don't forget they stole our boat
GIVE US OUR BOAT BACK!
Personally, I don't want to go to war with them becuse
A. my twin bro is in the US Army in South Korea
B. They have Nuclear weapons.
My brother has told me that the younger people in the South don't even want teh US involved anymore, and the older generation still remembers what the North did before the war.
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