SoCaliente_1
Oct 12 2003, 06:26 PM
France's economy is in downturn and has being running a deficit for 3 years now. It narrowly escaped through negotiations, yet again, harsh penalties by the EU. France's reaction to the EU and Brussels' warning of past was to let the deficit widen rather than take painful measures to reign in spending.
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The latest official statistics point to a growth rate very close to zero in 2003. Not only is this "a bad result in absolute terms", it says, "but the greatest and gravest surprise is the realisation that France is now doing worse than its neighbours".
A Germany "encumbered by reunification and wage costs" has in recent years been dubbed "Europe's ball-and-chain", the paper says, but now Paris looks set to take over the ball-and-chain from Berlin.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3179630.stmquestions:
1. Are Germany and France, having the biggest economies, hurting the EU economically?2. Are France and Germany using (or abusing) their "status" as the "powers" of the EU by their cavalier attitudes towards the rules within the Stability and Growth Pact? additional linkage: http://finance.news.com.au/common/story_pa...5E14305,00.html
Hugo
Oct 12 2003, 06:56 PM
The problem with integrating economies is that different economies may be in need of different fiscal and monetary policies. Running a deficit, in the midst of a recession, is widely recognized as a legitimate action to help stimulate the economy. Will countries attempt to buck the EU when it disagrees with their interests? Of course.
GoAmerica
Oct 12 2003, 09:29 PM
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1. Are Germany and France, having the biggest economies, hurting the EU economically? additional linkage: http://finance.news.com.au/common/story_pa...5E14305,00.html Yes they are. France and Germany's economic woes are not helping the economic growth of the EU. The unemployment rates are high and their economic policys are just making it worse. Chirac and Scheoder were bad economic leaders but they were re-elected because of Chirac's opponent was a facist and Scheoder used the Anti-American envrionment to get re-elected
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2. Are France and Germany using (or abusing) their "status" as the "powers" of the EU by their cavalier attitudes towards the rules within the Stability and Growth Pact?
Yes. France is constiently shoving aside the rules.
moif
Oct 13 2003, 07:07 AM
1. Are Germany and France, having the biggest economies, hurting the EU economically?
No. Economies rise and fall like a living organism breathing. Its simply impossible for an economy to just grow.
France and Germany's economies have an effect, of that ther is no doubt, but they do not hurt the EU's overall economy. The EU is far larger than just these two nations.
2. Are France and Germany using (or abusing) their "status" as the "powers" of the EU by their cavalier attitudes towards the rules within the Stability and Growth Pact?
Yes. Very much so. Especially France is using its position of a founder member of the Union as a shock absorber for its own foreign policy.
AmericanLeader
Oct 19 2003, 04:05 AM
France and Germany should take care of their own countries first before they care about the EU. France and Germany must be the leaders who are leading the European economy, but they are not responsible for that lately.
CruisingRam
Oct 19 2003, 09:52 AM
I think France's action in the EU debate has certainly made the actual unification harder, though I think Germany's woes are more to do with unification than anything else. Schroeder does not have that much influence over the economy IMO.
German sales to former eastern bloc countries will probably pull it's fat out of the fire eventually IMO- you can't go there without seeing the German dominance of all retail goods. The changing of the entire eastern German part of thier country into a western style economy is very expensive and difficult, but IMO they are doing better than Poland, and Poland is a rockin' and a rollin' compared to where it was!
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