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EntitledFetus
Many States have voted to convene a 2nd Constitutional Convention that would open the entire Constitution to change, by elected Delegates to the Convention? I believe there are less than 5 more State votes required to convene a new national Convention.

Do you support a 2nd Constitutional Convention?

Is the current Constitution primarily a relic of a pre-Industrial, agrarian society, with outdated provisions?
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Jaime
Welcome to the debate EF-

QUOTE(EntitledFetus @ November 10, 2002, 3:49a.m.)
"Many states have voted to convene a 2nd Constitutional Convention..."


I have NEVER heard of any states even wanting this much less voting for this. Could you provide me some proof of this?

My opinion is simple. The Constitution should NEVER be touched. The only changes that should ever be made are the addition of amendments.

If it ain't broke, why fix it???
Digital Patriot
outdated? How could free speech for all, equal voting rights for women, and right not to incriminate ones self, be outdated?

No, our constitution is fine the way it is.

--cheers
turnea
I also say no to remaking the national Constution. I couldn't imagine that is would improve much, and indeed it could get worse. There are some state constitutions that need to go (Alabama) but the national one is working...
Mike
Oh man. Reworking the Constitution?

Can you imagine the pork on a new Constitution?

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Stefan Fargus
I couldn't even imagine letting any of today's politicians on either side of the aisle rewrite the constitution. The very thought is frightening. Re-opening the Constitution for edit would be a foolish move, and would undoubtedly destroy what it has taken better than two centuries to create. I agree with the others in that the power to ammend is more than enough power for anybody to have over our governing document.
Jaime
QUOTE(Stefan Fargus @ Dec 31 2002, 01:58 PM)
I couldn't even imagine letting any of today's politicians on either side of the aisle rewrite the constitution.  The very thought is frightening.

It IS frightening, Stefan. What is more frightening is the fact that our representatives wouldn't write it. Their staffers would.

I know a lady who interned for one of the state senators in South Carolina. She said that the senator rarely contributed to the drafting of any legislation she would present to her committees or to the state Senate itself. The Senator allowed her staffers, mostly unpaid interns, to write laws that would govern the people of an entire state.

Then there was the whole Homeland Security fiasco. How many Reps & Senators actually read the entire legislation to which they penned their name and altered the course of an entire nation? Not many, I would suspect. I can't find it now, but I believe it was Neal Boortz who attempted to find this answer and found that a measly 40-something of 535 Representatives and Senators actually claimed they did.

Could you imagine what would happen if a new Constitution was considered by our lazy, greedy Congress? ohmy.gif

There is always the alternative. We could bypass them altogether and chose new representatives from each state not affiliated in anyway with corrupting interests to go to this Constitutional Congress. I wonder how that would work.... huh.gif
Hugo
The fact is there are at least 13 states that are deeply conservative and at least 13 that are distinctly liberal. The way our founding father's solved a similar dilemma between free and slave states was to limit the powers of the federal government and to specifically enumerate those powers. Thus, creating a government that all could live with. There is no way a Constitution could be ratified by 3/4ths of the states today.
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