I have heard many self styled conservatives talk about "nuking them till they glow in the dark" and have seen many a bumper sticker talking about "killing them all and let god sort them out" in response to Iraqis, but even more to Palestenians, and on posts here you see the Palestenians almost always cast as the villian by conservatives, even though they are the oppressed ones by any sane logic. Yet over and over again there is an undertone of sanctioned genocide among conservatives, aimed squarely at muslims and certain sub-sets of muslims.

Now, the reasoning for this is that it would be (and I am not making this up) - the "final solution" to fix the unrest and constant warring in the middle east.

Now, I know most poeple on this site will of course say "no, genocide is never good"- but there is too much of that sentiment being espoused by a sub-culture of our culture to ignore it.

Does anyone here think that some kind of genocide or near genocide of a ethnic or group of middle easterners would ever actually create peace in the middle east?

I hope you aren't serious.

Because if you truly think 'conservatives' are advocating genocide you are throwing out a rather broad accusation.

Sounds like more leftist rhetoric to me.

Kill them all and let God sort them out is an just an expression 'expression'.

Genocide is never good for any reason what so ever(unless it's cockroaches).

Ridiculous position.


Would the genocide of all non muslims bring world peace - -probably

acceptable - -No.

Although history shows us that, much like Christians, Hindus and Buddhists, Muslims are perfectly capable of warring amongst themselves! So wiping out every non-Muslims wouldn't bring world peace at all.

People find it easy to fight - we're tribal by nature and evolution. If you killed everyone except me and my brother, I'm sure we'd find something to fight about!

I'm not really going to debate whether or not genocide is acceptable - mainly because there isn't anything to debate...

Back when Ronald Reagan was President, I had a friend whose husband subscribed to Soldier of Fortune magazine and was a gun enthusiast. He was enamored of survivalist scenarios. I would peruse the magazine when I visited. There were baseball-style caps and tee shirts for sale in the magazine ads, and "Kill 'em all, Let God sort 'em out!" was one of the slogans available.

Now obviously not everyone who thinks this slogan is amusing is a killer. When it gets down to the nitty gritty, however, we don't know how many members of our society who actually possess hatred for a group of people would welcome the opportunity to wipe them all out. The United States isn't immune to the sentiments that permeate the rest of the world.

One of the first things that is done in a war is spread propaganda that the enemy is either not human or less human than we, the "good guys," are. If this is not done, it becomes difficult for a soldier to fire on the other side at first, and difficult for the populace to support the war.

When it is repeated often enough that one group of people is less human than another and therefore not worthy of life, there is the risk that someone will take things to extremes. I am sure there are a lot of tests that can be taken to screen an individual for homicidal tendencies, but it is usually in a crisis situation when that person's real attitudes are revealed. Wasn't it Lawrence of Arabia who would go about stabbing every enemy corpse after a battle?

Even if an entire race of people managed to be exterminated by another, it would not mean lasting peace. There will always be someone else to be identified as the enemy; nikachu is right. Maybe on some level it is instinctive, to guard the food supply and the women of the tribe from marauders. But genocide will never be right.

I thought that "Conservatives" were by definition, the ones who felt that their grandfather's politics were probably a little bit too liberal, and that we needed to regress to a time when:

Everyone knew that the enemy was truly evil. Hitler, as an example, "had some good ideas, but the Holocaust wasn't one of them." He needed to de dealt a "final solution," and it wasn't fair that he had cheated the world of the right to try him at Nuremberg.

A man could build his own business and run it himself and not have any interference from the government, etc.

Remembered growing up on a farm, and not having to worry about Health or Building codes. I remember a woman making plans to leave the state because they wanted her to install indoor plumbing on her farm!

Felt there was an armed Communist spying on them from behind every tree. (And wanted to nuke the Russkies, the Chinese, the Viet Kong, the North Koreans, etc.)

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Of course, those were the Conservatives (Republicans) that I was listening to at 3:00 A.M. 30 years ago.

Now Weegie is asking:and I'm being asked to accept that this is the position of the "Conservatives" in America! Without taking an exact count, I suspect we would still find more non Muslims than Muslims in America. The conservative voices that I am aware of are trying to blame the Muslims for all the terrorist activities in the world, and being very unconvincing. President Bush points out that theirs is a peaceful religion while attacking Afghanistan and Iraq and "Occupying Mecca."

No one can risk identifying a group of people by race, religion, geography, or gender, and saying that they need to be destroyed. They would be identified with Hitler, Ceacescou, Hussein, Bin Laden, and who knows who else. They would be held up to the mirror of world opinion and become a target of hatred themselves.

The "self styled conservatives" who feel that nukes should even be used must have no concept of what those weapons really are capable of. Proposing genocide as a solution is the most bizarre, radical, useless solution that I can imagine. I can recall "Women's Libbers" who felt that if they could capture the sperm banks, they could kill all the men in the world, start over, and raise boys who had no sense of power. They were called radical feminists though, not conservatives...