Full Version: Judicial Waiver and America's high schoolers
Im sure that everyone has debated this to death, but I was sitting around opening my mail this morning and I came across a rather disturbing letter from a Nebraska Senator (Mike Foley) and Im in complete shock.
It seems that in the State of Nebraska all high school students are given info on how to obtain an abortion without parental permission. All students grades 7-12 are once a year given a slip of paper that clearly outlines the exact steps to take to get a judicial waiver from a Judge. All they have to do is make a brief court appearance and show they are mature enough to make a decision regarding abortion, records of these preceedings are sealed, seems Planned Parenthood and other providers openly and boldly advertise that they will assist minors with this process. For ten years some Nebraska Senators have tried to defeat this bill, and it is up again, LB 172.
The vote is next week, and Im gonna go all out to get it passed, join forces with religious fanatics, whatever, I dont care. I am one person, one vote, but I have a big mouth and great typing speed.
Now I think that under certain circumstances an abortion is in fact a womans right to choose. If your in a relationship, I dont think its fair to not consult with the childs father before taking that step, but in the end its the womans right, and she does not need permission. Its not for me, at 31, I dont think I can claim stupidity that I did not know the consequences of my actions when I took my clothes off, but if I got raped, you can bet Id be there waiting for Planned Parenthood to open. So I guess when it comes to me, I ride the fence, but when it comes to my daughter, uh no.
My problem with it is that I am legally responsible for her in every other way until she is 18. If she screws up, I pay, if she is neglected, I pay, if she is using drugs, I am responsible to see that it stops. BUT she can go have a medical proceedure that comes with some hefty moral and religious troubles without my consent? I never know? WTF is that?
Im sorry, but when my 13, 15, 17 year old is laying in her bed bleeding to death from a complication of one of these secreat abortions, Id like to be able to tell freakin 911 what the hell is going on. Or when that same little girl starts acting up, drinking, whatever, Id like to know why she hurts, and how I can help her. I dont think that any child can make a grown up decision like that, when I was that young I looked for the easiet way out of any bad situation and worried about right and wrong later, and I paid big time on more than one occasion. I got lucky enough to be 24 when I got pregnant, and I dealt with being told to get an abortion by her dad, I cannot fathom how I would have handled that at 16. No way. What the hell is this state, the federal government, Planned Parenthood thinking? GOD! Ugh!
This just ticks me off, and I am sure a lot of people are gonna say "I dont want the government making decisions about my body" and I guess I dont either, sure I think abortion is bad, and I think it should be damn hard to get one for grown ups. But I think it should be IMPOSSIBLE for my child to get one unless Im standing there with her.
Am I the only one who would want to know?
Yet another reason why my kid is not going to public school. Damn.
Angie
needed to vent, thanks for listening
It seems that in the State of Nebraska all high school students are given info on how to obtain an abortion without parental permission. All students grades 7-12 are once a year given a slip of paper that clearly outlines the exact steps to take to get a judicial waiver from a Judge. All they have to do is make a brief court appearance and show they are mature enough to make a decision regarding abortion, records of these preceedings are sealed, seems Planned Parenthood and other providers openly and boldly advertise that they will assist minors with this process. For ten years some Nebraska Senators have tried to defeat this bill, and it is up again, LB 172.
The vote is next week, and Im gonna go all out to get it passed, join forces with religious fanatics, whatever, I dont care. I am one person, one vote, but I have a big mouth and great typing speed.
Now I think that under certain circumstances an abortion is in fact a womans right to choose. If your in a relationship, I dont think its fair to not consult with the childs father before taking that step, but in the end its the womans right, and she does not need permission. Its not for me, at 31, I dont think I can claim stupidity that I did not know the consequences of my actions when I took my clothes off, but if I got raped, you can bet Id be there waiting for Planned Parenthood to open. So I guess when it comes to me, I ride the fence, but when it comes to my daughter, uh no.
My problem with it is that I am legally responsible for her in every other way until she is 18. If she screws up, I pay, if she is neglected, I pay, if she is using drugs, I am responsible to see that it stops. BUT she can go have a medical proceedure that comes with some hefty moral and religious troubles without my consent? I never know? WTF is that?
Im sorry, but when my 13, 15, 17 year old is laying in her bed bleeding to death from a complication of one of these secreat abortions, Id like to be able to tell freakin 911 what the hell is going on. Or when that same little girl starts acting up, drinking, whatever, Id like to know why she hurts, and how I can help her. I dont think that any child can make a grown up decision like that, when I was that young I looked for the easiet way out of any bad situation and worried about right and wrong later, and I paid big time on more than one occasion. I got lucky enough to be 24 when I got pregnant, and I dealt with being told to get an abortion by her dad, I cannot fathom how I would have handled that at 16. No way. What the hell is this state, the federal government, Planned Parenthood thinking? GOD! Ugh!
This just ticks me off, and I am sure a lot of people are gonna say "I dont want the government making decisions about my body" and I guess I dont either, sure I think abortion is bad, and I think it should be damn hard to get one for grown ups. But I think it should be IMPOSSIBLE for my child to get one unless Im standing there with her.
Am I the only one who would want to know?
Yet another reason why my kid is not going to public school. Damn.
Angie
needed to vent, thanks for listening
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