Do you think that the parents in the case of making the child wear the sign " i didn't do my homework honk the horn if you think this punsihment is right" Well whatdo you think should happen to the parents? Jail? Child abuse???

Do you have a link to the story?

ill look

Neither. I think the parents should be applauded.

All too often parents don't take responsibility for the actions of their kids. I think one of the biggest problems in society today, is the lack of interest parents are taking in their kids.

I think this punishment is creative and non abusive. I think it will teach that kid a lesson. And I would be willing to bet, that that is the last time he gets caught not doing his homework

--cheers

I would honk.

jjirout

SRY cant find it but ill tell you it.

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yesterday i saw on the news that this mother made this child stand on the cornor for not doing his homework, the parent claimed that the teacher of the district told her to do that. The parent made the chld wear this sign " i didn't do my homework honk if you think this punishment is right" NOW the parent is facing legal actions

Personally, I think this is a little bit far out. Kids emotions are already so volatile and unstable at this age. I think there are much better punishments. Embarrassment isn't really very positive. I wouldn't call it abuse, but I just don't like it. Nor am I sure it will be effective in the end.

As a student i am obliged to think diffrently. It was real cold out and this parent made the child stand out side with that sign! I would never do my homework. I think that parent should face legal action have her children taken away. How would you like it if i were to say... " ok you didn't post on americasdebate.com™ no more cigarrets "

EMBARESSEMENT is one of the reason the columbine incident occured...now that children is scared for life

I've always been a big supporter of public shame as a remedy for many of society's ills. Based on the information provided, I support the parents (I would like a link also, maybe I'll try to find one).

I think a child's "volitile" emotions are the very reason they need to be shamed into doing their homework. S/he SHOULD feel bad, they did wrong. Doing something wrong shouldn't make one feel good. (Of course, this really is going to depend on the student. The person issuing the justice will need to consider that.)

Does anyone know the origin of "dunce caps"? Isn't this just a revised version?

Thats repulsive. Shaming a child is no way to go about getting them to do their homework. There are plenty of other punishments that work more effectivley (such as taking away TV privleges, or a grounding. Two things that I dont think happen often enough). Sure, it may get them to do their homework, but may make them end up feeling worthless. If my parents had paraded me around for doing something bad, I would have felt awful and isolated. Children need the love and support of their parents, and parents shouldnt be the source and cause of a kid's embarassment.

i dont even know what the dunce caps mean. Anyway-- This has left this child in a situation in which he cant come out of it. Now he will do his homework, but mayu be taken away from his parents! His parents went to, too much extreeme to punish this kid, Many times things like this only encourage the kids. Yes i agree nothing can stop kids. But you need to find alternet methods, Did you know TOO MUCH HOMEWORK CAN BE BAD FOR YOU... I will send the link for the too much homework can be bad for you. WOW THAT WAS A LONG POST

Well everyone got alot of HW to catch up on.... dont want to parade around

I don't think it's that big of a deal. I don't know the whole story though. I can tell you that I have one son that is extremely hard headed and always lies about his homework. You just can't take every disciplinary tool away from parents or there will be a lot of rotten kids out there.

I don't know of the story just what I have read here. But I agree there are a lot of kids who lie constantly about homework. An maybe this is not the first time this child has not done his/her homework. Maybe the child has lied before and other privileges have been taken away and that didn't work. Is this abusive? I don't think so. I would be interested to know how many people honked???

Isolated. Like a child would be if s/he were grounded and not allowed to play with his/her friends?

And I don't know about you, but parents have ALWAYS been the source of embarrasment for me. There was a time growing up, when I didn't even want to be seen in public with my folks. Heck, at 24 sometimes I STILL don't But thats natural

--cheers

QUOTE]Does anyone know the origin of "dunce caps"? Isn't this just a revised version? [/QUOTE]
I researched this for quite a long time and the best I could come up with is that it was not mentioned in the written word until the 19th century. It was thought by some scholars that the conical shape would give the brain room to grow. Students were given one to wear to this end. Of course it evolved into the present day meaning. Then there is this from http://ntas-k1.sv.cc.va.us/svphilc/foolcap.htm. If you note that "wizards" wear this shape hat.
There is some disagreement over the origin of this word. The Oxford English Dictionary defines a foolscap as "a cap of fantastic shape, usually garnished with bells, formerly worn by fools or jesters." It is also the name given to a dunce's cap. The OED gives as a second definition "The device of a 'fool's cap' used as a watermark for paper."

Sorry, I made an error in the post above. The line about the wizard should have been before the link.
I also want to reiterate my feelings that while the action might work for some kids I think it could be very bad for others. In the end because the parents know the child and we do they may well have the correct answer to the problem.

OK EVERYONE I FOUND A LINK TO THE INCIDENT HERES THE LINK Web page of the incident. I think that the parent didn't need to take such direstic action to the child. Why couldn't she take away his TV it has been proven shaming a child dont work...*expirence* It may encourage US

Oh, everyone parents will probably always be a source of embarassment, but its not usually on purpose. My parnets arent going out of their way to embarass me, they are just being themselves. This is one parent who is TRYING to make their child feel stupid and embarassed, which I believe is wrong.

You're right Kimpossible. It was a terrible and unforgivable thing for the parents to do to that child. Somebody needs some counseling.

MT

I am not saying I would do that to a child of mine, but then I didn't have the problem with them not doing their homework. In the article that juber3 posted this mother supposedly has had a problem with this child not doing homework for over 2 yrs. I think she has probably taken all the other options she could and they did not work. Maybe out of frustration she didn't know what else to do. I don't know what I would of done in her situation. But at least she didn't beat the kid and wearing a sign probably did embarass the child. So what? People get embarassed all the time. Kids as well as adults. I would be interested to know if the child is now doing the homework.

I wonder how she got the kid to stand out with the sign. Did anyone mention his age?

the article that Juber3 sent just states his mother made him wear the sign while she and several other kids were in a van. It states he was in Middle School. So I would think about he was about 8 to 11.

Embaressemnt is more HARM than good. Yes this incident will pass...but in the end it happens to be the child emotional staus... Do you think the child will like the parent... REVENGE

I think you're right Juber3. The child will never forget. He'll probably be teased at school. Kids can be so mean. There must be a reason he doesn't do his homework. I think there are underlaying problems. I don't think public shame is the answer.

MT

TY their is a reason for everything! If he didn't do his HW then he must of had a reason. My debate teacher has initated an emergency debate and this is our newest topic. Thanks all for posting

I would just like to say that I truly frown on this type of "punishment". It is one way to make a kid feel embarassed. My advice is to do something that is more private within the home..not public.

Agreed Lucy... I agree that you need to take actions INSIDE the home. Kids pick on me sometimes for the embaressement reason

Also here is a list of acceptable things the parent could of done

1. Take Away TV

2. Take Away outside priviliges

3. Take Away computer playstation

4. Take Away school activity avalibilty

5. Grounding

6. severe punishment ( belt )

I don't feel that the child's punishment was terribly abusive at all, however it may seem a little degrading. then again if it were me and i had not done my hw and i was punished in such a manner, i know I would be furious. I cant really judge whether or not this runs into category of child abuse, but psychologically this incident will stick in this kid's memory for a long time, and i think it will come back to the parents in one way or another. I dont know how he feels cuz its never happened to me but im sure hes feeling some sort of bitterness towards his parents and will for some time whether its in the back of his mind or not.

Never acceptable punishment, inside the house or out.

MT