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popeye47
I have heard numerous individuals complain that our hunt for Osama was hampered(to put it mildly) by the war in Iraq.

There are several articles on this and I have included one below

http://www.forrelease.com/D20030914/nysu01...5012.19279.html

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It's been many months since President George W. Bush declared he wanted bin Laden "dead or alive," but with America distracted in Iraq, and Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf leery of stirring up an Islamist backlash, there is no large-scale military force currently pursuing the chief culprit in the 9/11 attacks, U.S. officials concede to Newsweek.

Military officials now openly worry about whether they'll have enough troops for just the tasks they have, given declining re-enlistments by frustrated Reservists and National Guardsmen, report Senior Editor Michael Hirsh, Investigative Correspondent Mark Hosenball and Special Correspondent Sami Yousafzai report in the September 22 issue of Newsweek (on newsstands Monday, September 15). "The point is: why would we open that new front? It wasn't related directly to the war on terror," says retired Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni, the former Centcom commander who has long criticized the administration's switch from bin Laden to Saddam.

The United States still has only about 9,000 troops in all of Central Asia, even as it struggles to fight off demands that it increase its presence in Iraq. And some U.S. military officials trace the Taliban's gradual resurgence to the abrupt diversion of so many resources to Iraq, including Predator aerial vehicles, in a critical period beginning in 2002. One example: in February and March of 2002, the Arabic-speaking Fifth Special Forces Group-the teams that were mostly credited with winning the Afghan war-were largely pulled out to be soon redeployed in the Mideast. They were replaced by other teams such as the Seventh Group, whose focus is Latin America. The result: a loss of good intelligence. "From the very beginning we f---ed it up," says a Fifth Group officer who fought in Afghanistan. "The conventional army came in and new teams...didn't have the same relations. Continuity is everything. The trust you develop with another guy by fighting alongside him is everything. We did it wrong."

Other intelligence resources were also badly strained. "It was widely reported after September 11 that we didn't have enough intelligence officers who are familiar with [the Islamic] world," notes one former staffer on the Senate Intelligence Committee. "If we didn't have enough for Afghanistan, how did they make the argument they had enough for Afghanistan and Iraq?"

Bush officials insist they did not stint in their intelligence gathering for bin Laden and Al Qaeda. "That's a canard. There was a deliberate effort not to make that happen," one administration official tells Newsweek. But privately, some U.S officials acknowledge that the search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq may have seriously drained away resources from the hunt for bin Laden



My questions are:

Did invading Iraq hamper our chances of finding Osama?

Should we have waited until Afghanistan was more stable or Osama was found before turning our attentions to Iraq?
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Dontreadonme
Did invading Iraq hamper our chances of finding Osama?

No.
The large and mostly mechanized forces that took part in Operation Iraqi Freedom are unweildly, at best, in the mountainous terrain along the Paki-Afghan border. (where the main focus has been in hunting OBL and AQ).

In A-stan now, are forces well equipped to handle the mission and terrain:
The 10th Mountain Division
172nd Infantry Brigade
3rd Brigade, 25th Infantry Division
JTF 180
19th Special Forces Group
20th Special Forces GrouTask Force 121

More is always better, but I don't think we were severly hampered by conducting two simultaneous operations. Especially when they shared a common Command & Control (C2), from Doha, Qatar.
Amlord
If Osama is in Pakistan (as I suspect he is) rather than Afghanistan, then sending 200 million troops to Afghanistan is pointless. laugh.gif

Pakistan (or any other country for that matter) isn't about to let 100,000 US troops go door to door. As a matter of fact, only recently has Pakistan agreed to let US troops inside its country. Report: Deal for U.S. to Hunt Bin Laden in Pakistan

Besides, the military is not geared toward a man hunt situation. Look how long it took to find Saddam, when WAS inside the country controlled by the US military?

The military is good for (to borrow a phrase) killing people and breaking things. So the troops are not what are needed to find Osama.

Look at how long it took the FBI to find the Unabomber: decades. They only found him after a family member turned him in. If Osama lies low (as he has) he can stay hidden for a long time.

Finding Osama is an intelligence matter, not a military one.
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