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I received an e-mail today inviting me to join the "Blacks for Bush." I deleted the e-mail without opening it figuring this was just spam, but I got curious and wanted to know who exactly was behind such a crazy idea.
http://www.blacksforbush.org/
Judge for yourself.
But back in the real world, there are blacks for Bush and if you go to the official website of the Republican Party you can see him in action:
http://www.gop.com/kerryvskerry/
http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,405...5E13780,00.html
Gee, DON KING, the personification of integrity, supports President Bush. How nice for Dubya to have a guy who has murdered two men, consorted with mobsters and ripped off boxers for years throwing his support to the Prez.
King's first profession was in the illegal numbers business in Cleveland. In December 1954, King shot and killed one of three men trying to rob one of his gambling houses. Prosecutors determined King was defending himself and declared the death a "justifiable homicide."
Twelve years later, also in Cleveland, King beat a man to death who owed him money on the streets of Cleveland. Although convicted of second-degree murder, the trial judge (for reasons unknown) reduced the conviction from murder to manslaughter. Not only did King serve a short term of 3 1/2 years, he would receive a pardon from then Ohio governor James Rhodes.
http://www.sportslawnews.com/archive/histo...KingHistory.htm
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/kingmug1.html
Only in America!
Question for debate:
Does the endorsement of a convicted felon like Don King help or hurt President Bush's campaign?
http://www.blacksforbush.org/
Judge for yourself.
But back in the real world, there are blacks for Bush and if you go to the official website of the Republican Party you can see him in action:
http://www.gop.com/kerryvskerry/
http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,405...5E13780,00.html
Gee, DON KING, the personification of integrity, supports President Bush. How nice for Dubya to have a guy who has murdered two men, consorted with mobsters and ripped off boxers for years throwing his support to the Prez.
King's first profession was in the illegal numbers business in Cleveland. In December 1954, King shot and killed one of three men trying to rob one of his gambling houses. Prosecutors determined King was defending himself and declared the death a "justifiable homicide."
Twelve years later, also in Cleveland, King beat a man to death who owed him money on the streets of Cleveland. Although convicted of second-degree murder, the trial judge (for reasons unknown) reduced the conviction from murder to manslaughter. Not only did King serve a short term of 3 1/2 years, he would receive a pardon from then Ohio governor James Rhodes.
http://www.sportslawnews.com/archive/histo...KingHistory.htm
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/kingmug1.html
Only in America!
Question for debate:
Does the endorsement of a convicted felon like Don King help or hurt President Bush's campaign?
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Question for debate:
Does the endorsement of a convicted felon like Don King help or hurt President Bush's campaign?
I don't think it really does either quite frankly, unless it's something that the campaign itself attempts to exploit in some fashion. If Don King wants to come out and say he supports President Bush, fine, he can say anything he wants to say, but it doesn't mean that President Bush somehow endorses Don King or any ot the things he has done. If I were running the Bush campaign, I'd just shrug my shoulders and say, "It's nice that Don King supports the President" and move on.
QUOTE(nighttimer @ Apr 1 2004, 10:55 AM)
Question for debate:
Does the endorsement of a convicted felon like Don King help or hurt President Bush's campaign?
Does the endorsement of a convicted felon like Don King help or hurt President Bush's campaign?
This implies something: That anyone cares who Don King wants us to vote for.
I'd say it's a non-event. No one looks up to Don King for political wisdom. Or down at him, for that matter. Mostly, we try not to look.
And a blacksforbush organization is akin to the Log Cabin Republicans. A small minority that are special only for being a small minority.
If I might wax ironical for just a moment here, I'd like to ask...
Oh geez, nighttimer, are you seriously asking this?
My guess, if Don King actually votes, then it helps Bush, whoopie!
Of course I assume we are not to discuss the group any further than this individual and his ilk. Or why you, or the people who runs this website, think such a group is a crazy idea, etc?
Yawn-and-a-half....
Oh geez, nighttimer, are you seriously asking this?
My guess, if Don King actually votes, then it helps Bush, whoopie!
Of course I assume we are not to discuss the group any further than this individual and his ilk. Or why you, or the people who runs this website, think such a group is a crazy idea, etc?
Yawn-and-a-half....
Best case, most probably don’t care what Don King thinks. His record, criminal and social, only shows this man taking. Either the lives of thugs or the dignity and income of his boxers.
Worse case, it will definitely hurt who ever he endorses. The only press surrounding Don King is either negative or poking fun at his hair. I don't see how that can help any candidate.
Worse case, it will definitely hurt who ever he endorses. The only press surrounding Don King is either negative or poking fun at his hair. I don't see how that can help any candidate.
This should have about as much impact as all the Republicans going on and on about Kim Jong Il "endorsing" Kerry. In other words, it should only affect those who are unable to think for themselves and who can't distinguish between the positions of a candidate and the motives of those who might support those positions. Presumably, stupidity is non-partisan and this will "help" and "hurt" in roughly equal proportions. As a campaign "issue", it could be a minor jeering point for Kerry supporters which will affect few moderate voters; for Bush supporters, it's a dubious endorsement at best which will affect few moderate voters.
QUOTE(Wertz @ Apr 1 2004, 12:54 PM)
This should have about as much impact as all the Republicans going on and on about Kim Jong Il "endorsing" Kerry. In other words, it should only affect those who are unable to think for themselves and who can't distinguish between the positions of a candidate and the motives of those who might support those positions. Presumably, stupidity is non-partisan and this will "help" and "hurt" in roughly equal proportions. As a campaign "issue", it could be a minor jeering point for Kerry supporters which will affect few moderate voters; for Bush supporters, it's a dubious endorsement at best which will affect few moderate voters.
Ah, but the actions of the President are virtually guaranteed to affect Kim Jong Il, while having little or no direct impact on King.
Thus, who the dictator of Korea would rather have in office is relevant, while Don King is, well, Don King
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Another key difference here, Amlord, is that Don King has endorsed George W Bush and Kim Jong Il has not endorsed John Kerry.
This also, of course, raises another electoral issue: how much are partisans willing to believe talking points without question? And to what extent does their willingness to promote and broadcast such exaggerations and lies help or hurt the entire electoral process?
This also, of course, raises another electoral issue: how much are partisans willing to believe talking points without question? And to what extent does their willingness to promote and broadcast such exaggerations and lies help or hurt the entire electoral process?
I am sure Kerry's past position on the death penalty gives him support from unpopular individuals also. It is gest for internet gossip, that is all.
What is interesting about this is that among convicted felons that prefer Republicans, Don King is among a small minority.
Studies have shown that felons would overwhelmingly vote for Democrats. Some states it's as high as 80%.
No wonder some among the left are pushing to legalize voting from criminals, including Howard Dean, Wesley Clark and others.
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/kirs...00401080830.asp
http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2004/jan04/04-01-28.html
Studies have shown that felons would overwhelmingly vote for Democrats. Some states it's as high as 80%.
No wonder some among the left are pushing to legalize voting from criminals, including Howard Dean, Wesley Clark and others.
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/kirs...00401080830.asp
http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2004/jan04/04-01-28.html
if you opened the URL and read the About page
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Blacks for Bush?…Of Course It’s a Joke!
Blacks for Bush is a dedicated group of African Americans working to ensure that George W. Bush, our 43rd President does not have to serve another term.
We believe that based on the job he has done to this country, he like his father deserves to go home. We feel obligated to get George W. Bush home to Crawford, Texas and urge all African Americans and in fact all Americans to join us in our efforts; we’re uniters not dividers. Getting George W. Bush home to Crawford, Texas is the compassionate thing to do for him and for America.
Goal: Blacks for Bush is dedicated to ensuring that George W. Bush our 43rd President does not have to serve another term. We want to send him home to Crawford, Texas. It is the compassionate thing to do.
Motto: To do all that we can in anyway that we can to ensure that George W. bush does not have to serve another term and gets home to Crawford, Texas.
Pledge: We pledge to strive to ensure that George W. Bush does not have to serve another term and goes home to Crawford, Texas.
Chant: Send Bush home. Send Bush home.
Blacks for Bush is a dedicated group of African Americans working to ensure that George W. Bush, our 43rd President does not have to serve another term.
We believe that based on the job he has done to this country, he like his father deserves to go home. We feel obligated to get George W. Bush home to Crawford, Texas and urge all African Americans and in fact all Americans to join us in our efforts; we’re uniters not dividers. Getting George W. Bush home to Crawford, Texas is the compassionate thing to do for him and for America.
Goal: Blacks for Bush is dedicated to ensuring that George W. Bush our 43rd President does not have to serve another term. We want to send him home to Crawford, Texas. It is the compassionate thing to do.
Motto: To do all that we can in anyway that we can to ensure that George W. bush does not have to serve another term and gets home to Crawford, Texas.
Pledge: We pledge to strive to ensure that George W. Bush does not have to serve another term and goes home to Crawford, Texas.
Chant: Send Bush home. Send Bush home.
It might be off topic, but I think it would be interesting to know the percentage of African-Americans who work in the White House and in various cabinet posts vs. the percentage of those who worked in previous administrations under different presidents. I don't doubt for a minute that there are some blacks who support the Republican party. At the same time, I think it was 7% that voted GOP in 2000.
Does it hurt or help, hmmmmm. Well most people think down on convicted felons, i know i do. But hurtting or helpping depends on who cares or not. Most people i know wouldnt really care enough for it to effect their vote, think about that.
QUOTE(Wertz @ Apr 1 2004, 07:37 PM)
Another key difference here, Amlord, is that Don King has endorsed George W Bush and Kim Jong Il has not endorsed John Kerry.
This also, of course, raises another electoral issue: how much are partisans willing to believe talking points without question? And to what extent does their willingness to promote and broadcast such exaggerations and lies help or hurt the entire electoral process?
This also, of course, raises another electoral issue: how much are partisans willing to believe talking points without question? And to what extent does their willingness to promote and broadcast such exaggerations and lies help or hurt the entire electoral process?
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One of those Blue states were won by almost the same amount as Florida, only difference is who won it.
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