Trent Lott
We would be better off with segregation? What is he talking about. It's amazing we have a senator that racsist and no black senators.

Amazing why? Amazing that one of our politicians was that candid? Racism is the subtext of most conservative politicians and more than a few liberal politicians. It's one of the cornerstones of the Bush dynasty. It's one of the throughlines of the religious right. It's what motivates the NRA. It is the unifying factor in the grassroots support of the Republican Party in all those red states which used to vote for Dixiecrats. Amazing, perhaps, that Lott was so indiscreet as to actually say it out loud - but amazing that we have racist senators? Not in the least. Racism is the unspoken issue which elected many, if not most, of them.

Wertz!

Do you have any facts to back up any of those ridiculous statements? Oh, I see... just pure emotional speculation. Maybe I'll do the same for Democrats.

Let's see...Byrd...hmmm. Well, he was in the KKK and he used the word "ni**er" just last year in a publicly televised interview.

Let's see...Democrats...hmmm. The party that "fights for black people". While I truly appreciate that they are the party that stood up on behalf of slaves, and that they are the party that spearheaded the civil rights legislation of the 60s....Oh wait -- that was the Republicans. And couldn't it be considered racist that the Democrats think they actually need to "fight" for black people? Do the Dems really think that black people are so weak, so inferior that they need to be protected by the Democrats? Isn't that racist?

Statements which warrant clarification:



Proof, or pure speculation?



Proof, or pure speculation?



Proof, or pure speculation?



Proof, or pure speculation?

Let's take this one over here.

Let me refocus this debate.



I read the transcript, and watched the event. At no time did he say we would be better off with segregation. Maybe, in search of valid information, we should first look for firsthand sources.

Read the transcripts and review the situation.

While the comment was seemingly inappropriate, they must be taken in context. And here in this thread, they certainly were not.

Mike

I'll address the proof/speculation questions in the new thread. For this one, I think Sen. Lott needs to explain exactly what he meant by "If the rest of the country followed our lead we wouldn't have had all these problems." He was speaking of a candidate who was running on a specifically segregationist platform - Thurmond and his States' Rights Party were certainly very clear about that (I'm sure we've all seen the "all the laws of Washington and the bayonets of the Army cannot force the Negro into our homes, our schools, our churches" quote by now). To boast of having backed such a candidate seems bad enough - to suggest that such a candidate actually occupying the White House would have eliminated "all these problems" does seem to go beyond "a poor choice of words".

I'm not quite sure how his statement has been taken out of context. It was made at a celebration of 100 years of Strom Thurmond (apart from his personal longevity, best known for the longest filibuster in Senate history - in support of segregation). Lott was specifically referring to Thurmond's 1948 presidential campaign (and its unmistakable single-issue platform). Lott claims to have "voted for him", to remain "proud of it", and to regret that the candidate with the segregationist platform was not elected - indeed, to suggest that a segregationist president would have solved "all these problems". I don't think he was speculating about a Thurmond presidency having somehow prevented the September 11 attack fifty years in advance. Further, to describe segregation as "a discarded policy of the past" and simply say that he's not now embracing that policy strikes me as being a bit tepid by way of purportedly disowning racism - especially when, twelve hours earlier, he was "proud" of having supported such policies.

Not to push this too off subject, but I'm currently looking for a full text of what Senator Lott actually said at the event.

I don't want one or two lines, I want it all.

I don't see how we can safely determine his intent without having the full text of his actual comments.

Mike

ANybody have a link to the full text of what Lott said please? Thanks

--cheers

One side issue:
I've never actually heard the phrase "the party that fights for black people" used in relation to the Democratic party (though, bear in mind, I'd no more associate myself with that crowd of wimps than I would with the other yahoos), but I do know that over the past several decades it is the Democratic Party which has tended to support issues of specific concern to the black community (such as affirmative action) and that, consequently, African Americans are way more likely to be registered Democrats than registered Republicans (by something like nine to one). It would seem to me, then, that presuming "the Democrats" to be a bunch of white guys - leading one to say something like "fighting for black people" rather than "fighting for themselves" strikes me as being vaguely racist.

What he said last week:
"When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years."

What he said in 1980:
"You know, if we had elected this man 30 years ago, we wouldn't be in the mess we are today."


WP

This is absolutely sickening

Every time Republicans get a chance to gain black votes they have someone in a high position (in this case the future senate majority leader, for now) say some completely idiotic. Strom Thurmond in synonymous with segregation and therefore racism. Republicans of all people should be wary of being racists, if they have any sense they'll throw Lott out on his ear.

What a wimp...he gives a second apology. But it's to Hannity on Faux News. I'm sure this way he didn't have to face any embarrassing questions about his affiliation with the CCC.

And please, someone tell me what this means:


WP

In his heart he meant it, but his head should've kept him from saying it?

No Mike, the Dems don't believe that Black people are inferior. They would not need protection if it was not for the fact that we have two Americas -- not just when it comes to education, health care, housing and our vaunted prosperity but even when it comes to voting.

Admit it, in this country some are more equal than others.


MT.

I don't even have the strength to get into this debate, just wondering though-weren't nearly all political parties, Dixiecrats, Democrats, and Republicans alike, for segregation back then?

Who did he lose to, and what was his stand on segregation??

Thanks

Strom Thurmond lost to Harry Truman and Thomas Dewey. The northern republicans and northern democrats supported civil rights law (and LBJ). Times have changed. The Republicans are now split between Trent Lott types and John McCain types.

And it's not exactly what you'd call a 50-50 split. More like - what? 95-5?

So let me get this right Wertz, you're saying that 95% of Republicans today are racist and support segregation?! You're crazy!

BringIt- Are you Wertz's psychiatrist? If not, please refrain from calling him crazy. (If so, please send us a copy of his medical authorization releasing such info ).

Jaime: All doctor-patient communication between BringIt and myself is privileged. I've signed no releases.

Dr. It: No, I'm saying 95% of Republicans in Congress are much more like Trent Lott than they are like John McCain.

LMAO that's hilarious.

Segragation is good! It's a wonderful thing.
We should put some signs and ropes up!

"Jackass racists" and "Normals Only"

It would be a lot easier on everyone if we just made them wear t-shirts. It's a pain in the *** NOTICE: THIS WORD IS AGAINST THE RULES. FAILURE TO REMOVE IT WILL RESULT IN A STRIKE. *** waiting for some idiot to spit out some racist garbage just to identify the people that belong in the back of the short bus.

I don't care what aftermarket apology Lott chokes out. A primary concern of Thurman's was seperating "the nigger race" from "us". He should've lost any and all support from there on. That's not what America is supposed to be. He's a toxin.

I think that a strong foundation of racism (like in this case) is never rehabilitaed. Strom Thurman was, is, and will always be racist trash.
Anyone that can hold him in such high regard is suspect.

I DO like all the news channels "A Lott to explain", "A Lott of apologies" and "A Lott of contraversy" tag lines though.

The interesting thing to me about Lott's folly is how quickly a long political career can go up in smoke. It is well known that the Republicans are against federal programs such as affirmative action, and that isn't much of a problem in and of itself. However, when you add the anti-choice and anti-regulation elements to the stew, you start to see something a little more insidious. Some meat for this concoction: states' rights, one of the main issues the Civil War was fought over.

GWB claims to be a compassionate conservative, which I take as being moderately right wing. His father coined the term, "kinder and gentler nation". There's a desire among Republicans to get some heart and soul.

I don't know. It comes off as a tad bizzare, as when that woman, made up to sort of resemble Marilyn Monroe (after some operation that went bad), sang to that husk of a man in the chair. It made me nauseous. Maybe we need a law about Republicans trying to party--keep it out of the camera's eye. We are not interested. Instead, get those actual policy meetings out in the open, such as those that went on regarding energy policy.

Heh Heh...you are so right Author.

This story is basically a 'gotcha' story. Trent Lott was caught saying something which can be interpretted in many ways and in one way which is, indeed, rather fowl.

I can not criticize anyone being caught with a 'gotcha'. I would much rather debate what a person truely says and stands behind.

I am no fan of Trent Lott as the Senator he is but I think jumping on his case for a poor use of words is rather lame.

I would agree that this is a "gotcha" if he hadn't said these exact things before. This isn't a gotcha, it's a pattern of behavoir.

Lott's apologies were far from authentic. He didn't sound anything like someone who was truly sorry with real remorse.

It's more than just a poor choice of words. The guy's a racist. He made nearly identical remarks about Thurmond 22 years ago, voted against the Martin Luther King holiday and once wrote that racial discrimination doesn't always violate public policy.

Didn't he say his remarks were from his heart and not from his head? Mark Shields said on PBS tonight that Lott is right about that because his head is empty.


MT

I didn't even know what segregation was until at the age of 16 I spent some time in Texas. I had never seen segregation. I had never seen poverty. I saw them that summer. I was appalled. Racism makes me sick. Trent Lott makes me sick.

MT

Strom Thurmond, ran as a segragationist while a Democrat, George Wallace, 3 term governor of Alabama, closed the doors of Univeristy of Alabama as a Democrat. So the facts show that Democrats are actually the purveyors of racism in the South. Bill CLinton is bigoted toward women, I mean he treated them like garbage, he is a democrat. Ted Kennedy, another philanderer, actually let a woman drown while he saved himself in a car wreck he caused. Democrat again. Jesse Jackson, a man who has never actually held a job, called New York "Hymietown". He is bigoted towards Jews. Want more, cause I got more?

Thank GOd for that. John McCain may have been a Vietnam war hero, and I respect him for that. But as a senator he is a joke. His vote for that unconstituitional campaign finance reform law marks him as a liberal, a democrat masking as a republican, which he does because his state Arizona elects Republican senators. Campaign finance reform is nothing more than a way to muzzle free speech and quiet dissent against incumbent politicians.

Thanks for helping make my point that there is racism among liberals as well as conservatives - though you seem to be a bit confused about sexism (women, in case this has escaped you, are not a "race").


Only if, like myself, you can insert a bit of balance. You managed to come up with two racist Dixiecrats (both of whom eventually left the Democratic Party for parties more in keeping with their agenda) and a left-leaning anti-semitic preacher. Impressive, but what's your point? Just to reiterate my point? Thanks again, but I don't really need the help.

BTW, When was the last time George Wallace was elected to anything? Lott holds the 3rd most powerful position in our government right now. His ideas are a throwback to the second worst period of our history. I think it's a joke that there is even a comparison.

From what I could see, Clinton loved women...a bit too much actually. The affair was consensual and his own wife forgave him so move along please.

And at least Wallace had a major change of heart and recanted his racist positions. Unlike Lott, apparently.

Republicans don't cheat on THEIR wives. Everybody knows that.

"Do you, or have you ever had a racist thought?"

Welcome to the McCarthyism of the 21st century friends....

This is so rididulous and the hypocracy stinks to high hell.

We have the NAACP, the CBC, the CHC, and on and on...all segregationist groups all comprised of radical, left wing, racists, many of which actively seek to erase existing culture and heritage off the map.
The difference? They arent white so its ok for them to espouse their racist and divisive statements.

These phoneys are more outraged at Trent Lott than they are at Al Queada because we all know a racist is far worse than being a terrorist in todays warped day and age.

I want to throw this out there just to hear some answers...
What is so terrible about anyone being a racist and/or segregationist?
Why are modern day communists embraced and tolerated (the list is endless, don't get me started), when we all know communism IS evil, and racial sepratists are just torn apart and shredded by the media, stupid liberals, and of course the racist minorities like the NAACP and CBC?
Even if you are honest and if you dare bring up the negative consequences of what has happened over the last 40 years you are immediately branded and they will destroy you.

Trent Lott is an idiot. He always has been one. He tried to play Mr Bipartisan over the years and what did that get him? These vile leftist phoneys are going for the jugular. He has been a horrible spokesman for conservatism over the years and I do want to see him replaced as majority leader, but not becuase of this.
In fact, in some ways his statements may have had some truth to them....

What has forced integration and multiculteralism got us? Just more racial division and tension and resentment, and don't forget all the crime as well that has skyrocketed over the past 40 or so years.

Oh boy, this ought to be fun . Here the windup and...


Simple, racial bias is an unrealistic, dangerous view of the world which has no place in a rational society. As for segregation, there has never been a such thing as separate but equal and no American should be short-handed because of their race, it is against everything America stands for concerning equality of opportunity. In short, its unjust and foolish, that's what so wrong about racism and segregation.


Because communism isn't evil whether or not it works to create a stable society is beside the point, it does not as its basic doctrine discriminate against a group.


Wrong,racial division is down from the past (well obviously,segregation was by definition racial division )
So you're pretty much saying if we had keep the blacks in their place we wouldn't have all this crime?! Whites still commit most of the crime in this nation. Does this mean they should all be segregated to their detriment from the rest of society in order to protect the rest of us? Of course not.

You have made a statement that you have not backed up.
Prove it to me.
Show me the positive results in the last 40 years.





Who said anything about short changing?
Oh, you did.




In short, you have failed to make any headway. You've got to do better than that.




Can you provide us with an example of communism where it hasnt had to be ruled with at the point of a gun barrell?

Communism discriminates against anyone who doesnt go along with it.





Obvously you are just repeating what you want the results to be rather than being honest about it.
It would be nice if that world existed but the facts show the opposite.




No, you did. That is twice now you have tried to put words in my mouth. I would appreciate it if you'd stop. If you have a hard time comprehending my words then ask for clarification but DO NOT put words into my mouth.

Im saying that since the advent of multiculteralism, mass importing of immigrants from 3rd world countries, illegal immigration, and forced integration crime has increased.




Please, dont insult my intelligence. Whites consist of the majority of the population, hence the larger numbers.

Don't you think that if we want to be accurate we should look at figures per 1000 people, or percentages, or something that paints a more accurate picture?

I wouldn't even begin to debate this issue with someone as openly racist and extreme as Powderboss seems to be. What would be the point?

Seems like this topic has wandered from a discussion of Trent Lott. Let's get back to it. We can all debate racial issues in the Race Debate category.

I'd like to hear your opinions regarding President Bush's comments regarding Lott. Catch up on what he said here: Bush Calls Lott Comments 'Offensive'

Thank you for proving my point.....
One cannot even bring up the topic anymore without being branded "racist"....
Thank you, thank you. You make it too easy....LOL!

Furthermore, you dont know me, and for you to make that type of judgement after reading one or two posts from me is pretty simplistic, narrowminded, and just plain lame.

Perhaps you can show me the "racism" in my posts because I dont see it...I was just bringing up legitimate facts, questions and points for discussion. Isnt that what we're here for after all?

And please, Danya, the name is Powerboss. Do you have trouble reading or was it just an outright personal attack?

Are personal attacks within the rules and guidelines here?






What do you expect from a politician? It would be political suicide to say anything other as Racism is the new McCarthyism in the 21st century.
Hell, it isnt even racism, its white only racism that is the new McCarthyism.

Daring to bring up any question just gets you attacked by people like Danya, the NAACP, Jesse HiJackson, Al Not So Sharpton, and other simple minded sheeple who don't want to question anything and just go along with what sounds good.

Here is an example of why I see you as racist and extremist.

These phoneys are more outraged at Trent Lott than they are at Al Queada because we all know a racist is far worse than being a terrorist in todays warped day and age.
Racisim should now be able to run rampant because of 9/11?

What is so terrible about anyone being a racist and/or segregationist?
Don't ever let anyone tell you there are no stupid questions. But in case you were serious try to recall the lynchings for one thing. Ever heard of Rosewood? That was a great example of what is wrong with racism.

Why are modern day communists embraced and tolerated (the list is endless, don't get me started), when we all know communism IS evil, and racial sepratists are just torn apart and shredded by the media, stupid liberals, and of course the racist minorities like the NAACP and CBC?
Racesim should be allowed because communism is evil, in your opinion? Are you admitting that racism is evil but not as evil as terrorism or communism?

These vile leftist phoneys are going for the jugular.
Spoken like an extremist.

BTW, I'm white. Well, I am half Italian but you wouldn't be able to tell by looking at me. My mothers side of the family is white and has been in America for many many generations, so many that I can't even tell where they came from originally. When I see attitudes like the ones you posted it does NOT make me proud to be 'white'.

While I agree with Jaime that the last several postings here have strayed from the thread, I would also like to caution everyone that people who post unnecessarily inflammatory comments which are not directly related to the topic do so in order to intentionally derail the discussion. My first posting here admittedly raised side issues which have since been taken up (by Mike) else where. I strongly recommend we take Jaime's advice and follow suit with the question of what have been perceived as racist remarks by Powerboss.

That said, I do have one irony to point out on this page of the current discussion (in reference to the use of "Powderboss"):
This was followed in the same posting with
One wonders if Mr. Boss has trouble reading or if he's making outright personal attacks. Is this a case of the toilet bowl calling the wash basin white?

I would recommend that all of us - Mr. Boss especially, as he seems unfamiliar with them - review those rules. They can be found here.


Regarding President Bush's belated criticism of Mr. Lott, it looked to me as though he were trying to tread a fine line between mollifying the country's moderates without alienating the RNC's more racist constituency - not unlike his evasiveness regarding the flying of the Confederate flag in South Carolina. As Paul Krugman put it in a NY Times op ed piece, "the party must convey to a select group of target voters the message — nudge nudge, wink wink — that it actually doesn't mean any of that nonsense, that it's really on their side." That is why the President disowned Trent Lott's remarks, but did not ask him to step down.

No not at all, I never said that did I? You just did. Please don't put words in my mouth.

The point is that Al Queada are the real racists and the CBC, liberals, and their accomplices in the media should be pointing that out. They have acted, Trent Lott only spoke some words yet its being contrued as the worst thing to happen to this country in decades.

Can you point to ANY legislation sponsored by Trent Lott in his service in the House and Senate that would lead one to think he's a racist?



OK, so becuase I have asked the question, you have automatically deemed me as a racist?
Your point is correct, I abhor violence, let me rephrase the question.....

What is wrong with a person having racist views, but does not committ violence against others?

Would you say race relations are better or worse in the US in the past 40 years?

What do you think about the CBC? Do you think they are segragationists?




What is it with you putting words in my mouth? NO! However, if someone wants to hold racist views, but does not committ violence, they are entitled to do so.
I am not a fan of thought policing and that is exactly what has happened to Trent Lott and now to me here......



Racism when used in a manner to kill, hurt, or injure is wrong IMO. If Joe's car shop doesnt want to hire blacks or hispanics because he doesnt like them thats his business IMO. I can see having a non discriminatory policy in the govt but in the private sector it should be the individuals choice.



Why is that extreme?
What is untruthful about it.

This is clearly just a witch hunt after Lott. If they were really serious about it they'd be looking at Robert Byrd (KKK WV), Fritz Hollings (D Segregationist Governer SC), and Zell Miller (Worked for D Segregationist Governer Ga).



You are the one that has read into it more and have come up with things I've never said.....
However you are entitled to you opinion....I was merely asking questions....

Its amazing and quite sad how even a discussion about the topic is so taboo these days...






Your pretty funny....First you say that, then you go and do all this....



And please, Danya, the name is Powerboss. Do you have trouble reading or was it just an outright personal attack?

This was followed in the same posting with

Jesse HiJackson, Al Not So Sharpton, and other simple minded sheeple...


One wonders if Mr. Boss has trouble reading or if he's making outright personal attacks. Is this a case of the toilet bowl calling the wash basin white?


One wonders if Mr W. has trouble discerning the difference between non members, members, and unspecific references....

Any forum I've been a part of, politicians and public figures who open thier mouths are fair game for ridicule and attack.....If I were to call you a name, since you are a member here, then I would be in violation of the rules. See the difference? Its not too hard is it? I knew you could get it if I made it simple enough.....
I guess I'd be incorrect though if Al Not So Sharpton or Jesse Hi Jackson, or Algore were members here and if that is the case then you are correct.
BTW, your link to the rules didnt work. I also searched around and got "error 404" messages or something to that effect.

So, in all honesty I am going by the guidlines that are pretty common on the web.
If we are not allowed to ridicule public officials, that would indeed be an internet first.



So, you've now made the charge that the R's have a large racist constituency....
Please, back this up as you have continually told me to do...
Show us your evidence.




Why should he step down?

Prove he is a racist....Again, you are harping about me not providing evidence to back up my claims and you go and do the exact same thing....make statements without backing it up.

Show me his record of legislation in the House and Senate PROVING that he is indeed a racist and out to get blacks.

You can't. You simply want to punish him for what YOU and your fellow partisans THINK he is THINKING.

Its the Thought Police and Officer Wertz to the rescue!!!!!!!!!!
Its pretty sad how low you lefties sink and the things you resort to. A sure sign of desparation as the Democrat Party is imploding.

Same goes for your, or should I say someone elses, analysis of Bushs statement.
Perhaps you could come up with something on your own rather than repeating what the Old York Times tells you to think and say.
Please back up this assertion as well or have the person who actually told you what to think and say back it up....

Racisim should now be able to run rampant because of 9/11?
No not at all, I never said that did I? You just did. Please don't put words in my mouth.

The point is that Al Queada are the real racists and the CBC, liberals, and their accomplices in the media should be pointing that out. They have acted, Trent Lott only spoke some words yet its being contrued as the worst thing to happen to this country in decades.

Sorry, I couldn't understand your point the first time because it was basically a rant from left field (wups, I mean right field of course ) Now I see what you are saying and I feel the same way about Iraq getting all the attention while Bin Laden and Al Queada have been ignored. Maybe you could talk to Fox News about it. BTW, I don't know who the CBC or their accomplices are.

Can you point to ANY legislation sponsored by Trent Lott in his service in the House and Senate that would lead one to think he's a racist?
The man does have a history of being racist. Especially in his college days. I don't necessarily think this comment of his should make him lose his job. I just don't care if it does. There is a tiny bit of pity in the very bottom of my heart for him. But not enough for me to raise any objections if he's fired. Sorry.

OK, so becuase I have asked the question, you have automatically deemed me as a racist?
Your point is correct, I abhor violence, let me rephrase the question.....What is wrong with a person having racist views, but does not committ violence against others?

Because these are the kind of people that incite violence in others. Because it's unreasonable to hate or dislike someone based on their skin color, IMO. It's just wrong. You can think whatever you want but if you decide to voice your prejudice be prepared when people become offended and feel they must be on the defense.

Would you say race relations are better or worse in the US in the past 40 years?
Infinitely better than it was...but it's not as good as it could be.
There are obviously still people that are ignorant. There may always be. I don't underestimate the stupidity of the masses any longer.

What do you think about the CBC? Do you think they are segragationists?

I have no idea who they are.

What is it with you putting words in my mouth? NO! However, if someone wants to hold racist views, but does not committ violence, they are entitled to do so.
I am not a fan of thought policing and that is exactly what has happened to Trent Lott and now to me here......
I'm not a fan of thought police either. It doesn't change the fact that people who have disgusting thoughts probably shouldn't voice them. Child molestors for instance. If one started discussing their thoughts with you wouldn't you be disgusted? That is how I feel about hearing racist thoughts. That is the best way I can explain it to someone who can't understand. Even if they aren't actually molesting or hurting a child the thoughts themselves are just as wrong.

Regarding Joe hiring blacks...I hope he doesn't have black customers either.

Regarding the witch hunt...boohoo. Probably true but not undeserved. That's politics and it happens to both sides.

Its amazing and quite sad how even a discussion about the topic is so taboo these days...

I think this time we've done quite well at having the discussion.

Trent Lott condemned himself by his own words. He is not only a racisit, his native intelligence is now questionable. It does no service to his situation to try to defend his lack of judgement: That's just wrestling with a pig--you both get dirty and the pig gets annoyed. Trying to defend racism is worse.

Lott has shown his weak underbelly, and now the sharks who surround him will go for the kill. Lott will soon be gone.

I don't see this as much of a loss for the nation.

Hello everyone from a lurker

Everyone THIS is exactly why I had quit posting on here. Look at what was actually said by Trent Lott. No where is his entire statement does he EVER mention anything that is being said about him. When I had written a comparative paper some time ago in college about the Democratic Party and Nazism, the beginning of the new thought police, I thought it was a speculative venture on my part. I can now clearly see the thought police are out in force. It is a VERY sad day to see words mean more than action...and even worse words put into someones mouth or better yet, reading the minds of people. We let Democrats get away with defining everyone...let's look at Byrd shall we? The man was a Grand Dragon of the KKK...does anyone here on this board have the intelligence to understand what this means? Lott makes a comment about something that happened over 40 years ago and people are ready to stone him. Do I agree with what Lott said? Not really...does anyone know EXACTLY the platform the Dixiecrat Party was running on in 1948? Did Truman start some programs that are causing us headaches today? I think that what you are doing here is engaging mouths (typing) before putting brain into gear. It's very interesting how little information is available on the Dixiecrat Party of 1948. Anyhow, I'd thought I would say hi...from a lurker.

Darcaine

1. Yeah, intelligence is not lacking, Byrd should be thrown out too, but we are discussing Lott pointing to the idiocy of others should not save him.

2. If Lott didn't know Thurmond was a segragationist, he's worse than a racist, he is actively seeking to be ignorant. The man holds the filibuster record for protesting the civil rights act. The dixicrats split from their original party precisely because segragation and civil rights according to the history books. If they're wrong (or worse yet it's all a conspiracy ) well then how would any of us know?
Perhaps the difficulty in finding info is the search terms used, I'll try to find some to post myself...

3. Talk may be cheap but enough talk should by him a ticket out of Washington (or at least the leadership). This would be much less of a deal if he hadn't said this before. The American public can tolerate only so many "mistakes" from its leaders. Thought Police?!! He's a politician! What he thinks is his living. If the public disagrees with him he's out of a job, not in jail. That's politics, too bad for poor Senator Lott

4. He might not have been complementing Thurmond, maybe he was criticizing Truman. At Thurmond's birthday party
Repated mistakes have rightly started the process that will remove Trent Lott from leadership, good.

George Wallace did not switch parties, he served as a democrat in the early 1980's as governor of Alabama. I know, I was in elementary school. Danya, you are so predictable it is sad. You attack me for supporting women, how un-liberal. You use racism when it is convient, but when it goes against democrats, well then it shouldn't be mentioned. Bill Clinton didn't have consenual sex with Paula Jones, she sued him, remember? Of course you don't know that Charlton Heston, the president of the NRA,walked in Selma, Alabama with Martin Luther King Jr. But wait, he is a high profile Republican, so let's just not talk about him. I can admit when politicians I support mess up, Newt Gingrich, John McCain, it is typical though that Democrats rant and rave and change the subject to avoid their own shoddy record.

Please point out where I attacked you and where I was so predictable so I can try to be more entertaining for you in the future. After all, that's what I'm here for.

Are you talking about my post above?

A bit off the subject, but why was everybody fawning over Storm Thurman anyway?

This guy pledged, when running for president, that no "Ne-grah" would ever swim in the same pool as whites, or drink from the same fountains, or eat at the same restaurants as whites.

He spent his life trying to maintain the status quo of a time when black S. Carolinians couldn't vote or go to school with whites or work at jobs reserved for whites.

He is nothing but an out and out racist who happend to live for 100 years.

MT

But, the guy was elected over and over so he must have been representing the thoughts of his voters. Scary, isn't it?

Yes it is scary. I was wondering out loud why Trent Lott was stupid enough to make such a racist remark in front of so many people. My husband said that maybe old Storm was a ventriloquist and he put the words in Trent's mouth.

Well, it was funny when he said it.

MT