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It is a reminder of how brainwashed individuals are. They are being herded like sheep for slaughter, and even the movies that they see, or don't see are dictated by others.....baaaaa.......baaaaaa

Sorry, but the question was asked.

Faith and fact can mix. For example, it is fact that we have not found WMD in Iraq yet, but some have faith that we will. Others had little faith that the Bush administration was telling us the truth about WMD in the first place, and fact has shown this to be at least partially accurate (African yellow cake).

However, what we are witnessing is not faith versus fact but deliberate attempts to ignore established fact. Certainly Moore has constructed a presentation of fact with the intent of impacting his audience in certain ways. The individual facts presented can't be questioned because they come from the horses' mouths. The presentation can be questioned, but in order to do this convincingly (and not be preaching to the choir), one needs to examine the presentation. In other words, see the flick.

Criticizing an unviewed flick is never valid criticism.



The implementation of the Patriot Act, where nobody in Congress read the thing, is grossly unfair and a derelection of duty. That this is commonly accepted behavior of Congresspeople is a shame on our democracy/republic. Moore simply illustrated how innane Congresspeople are and attempted to shame them by reading the Patriot Act through the loudspeaker of an ice cream/treats truck.

Personally, I thought this was quite a hoot.

The current administration can't really be blamed for Congress' lack of exercising its checks and balances. So this particular example isn't unfair to the administration. Nor is it unfair to Congress. We need a Congress that will work to keep the Executive from stepping out of line. Conversely, we could get an Executive that is careful to not step out of line. Ideally, we will get both.

So it's unfair that Congress hasn't been doing its job, and this is unfair to the electorate.



Irrelevant. I've already paid to see it. Another viewing for free would be welcomed.

I do understand that some people will never view this flick -- even if paid to do so -- yet will use their media slots to criticize it. They aren't criticizing the flick, as pointed out, but Moore personally and those who might agree with him. Of those who attempt to criticize without viewing, the terms "credibility gap" come to mind. Although this might be satisfying for the critic with no experience, it also reinforces the lack of credibility in the Bush administration. Because even its supporters can't come up with anything other than hard-headed, strident stances on flimsy evidence, if any.

No reason to be sorry. I find it amusing how the left accusses the right of being "sheeps to the slaughter", but when it is pointed out how easily they appear to fall for it, all they can come up with is "Well you do it too"

Of course with Michael Moore as their "master" what else would you expect?

Red

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And............. where did I say anything in the absolute?

You really outta point it out.

Are Bush apologists scared?

I'd say so: Bakersfield, CA Response (registration required - you can get a login/pwd from www.bugmenot.com)



Hmmm, a Bush-Cheny sticker for seeing Dodgeball! Sign me up!

of a film that is the 187th-biggest opening film in history? Perhaps not, although the dodgeball thing is witty!!!

Just kidding, let's say that this film does around $80 or $100M in box office, which means it's seen by around 10-15 million people. That's a pretty significant chunk of the electorate, given how close things are.

I would not see this movie if someone paid me. Well, for the righr price i guess I would, but I don't agree with what the movie proposes. The left in this country is so bent on getting power back it has stooped to an all time low. I'm sick of people like Moore and Gore and most leftists making this war out to be Bush's game. These people try to make the war out to be anything but it is, which is a war against radical Islamic militants who are bent on the destruction of the free world! I don't understand why people din't get this. Like ususal the left is doing and saying anything to win poular opinion, even if it means opposing the defense of America. It seems to me people like Moore and Gore and the left have put greed and power before what is really important. Let's secure our spot in the white house and then move on to the vesigial topics.

Please RadioactiveMan how have we stooped to an all time low when Moore is just showing facts to back up his statements. Just like other people have said it is very hard to debunk the movie when you have not and wont see the movie. Before you make comments on the movie GO SEE IT then we can talk. Especially as several others have said Moore use the facts coming from the donkey doh I mean horses mouth. Like when back in early 2001 before 9/11 the administration was saying that Iraq posed no threat to us and we have kept it in check with our sanctions only to change their position when they saw the opening of going after Iraq after 9/11.