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QUOTE(Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace by Gore Vidal)
This is from a pre-Osama text: "Restrictions onpersonal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinions, including freedom of the press; the right to assembly and associations; and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic, and telephonic communications and warrants for house searches, orders of for confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed." The tone is familiar. Clinton? Bush? Ashcroft? No. It is from Hitler's 1933 speech calling for "an Enabling Act" for "the protection of the People and the State" after the catastrophic Teichstag fir that the Nazis had secretly lit.


The phrasing for this "Enabling Act" and the provisions for it's use are eerily if not practically identical to that of the "Patriot Act." The intended use for the "Enabling Act" was similar to the Patriot Act as well (to usurp the Peoples rights in order to root out 'enemies of the state'). First question,

1) Are these two acts not comparable?

2) Do you think that this comparison would affect proponents of the 'Patriot' Act's view?

3)Is the United States Government really more justified in their removal of citizen's rights than any other government?
(even if our rhetoric sounds better)

*Edited to fix some ugly stuff
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Amlord
Which Patriot Act provisions affect freedom of expression?

Which Patriot Act provisions affect free of the press?

Which Patriot Act provisions affect the freedom to assemble?

Which Patriot Act provisions call for the confiscation of property? (the tax code isn't the Patriot Act, tongue.gif )

1) Are these two acts not comparable?
Sure. But so are apples and corn...

A link to the actual text would be helpful.
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QUOTE(Amlord)
1) Are these two acts not comparable?
Sure. But so are apples and corn...

A link to the actual text would be helpful.


Haha Amlord, Im glad to be here becuase of people like you, always there to show me my mistakes smile.gif... yeah I see the weakness in it, me and another are looking for the exact text, and I'll let someone else do the deep analysis on the Patriot Act for I have a headache. Please don't treat this as an inane attempt to equate the B.A. to Hitler, more so to analyze a potential threat, i. e. if this hitler-esque stuff'd got out a lot be good for John Kerry right?

*Edited to add a link or two:

An encyclopedia entry
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