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Mike
I know I made this category and all, but I guess I made it out of fairness.

I figured, if we have a women's issues, we should probably have men's issues as well.

So, are there any "Men's Issues"?

I know of "feminists", but I've never heard of a "maleist".

Anyone care to touch that?

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Ouroboros
Oh I think there are men’s issues. We just don’t like to talk about them. wink.gif

But since you asked, I don’t know what being a “maleist” would mean. There was that male movement in the 90s. Is that still relevant/going on? Wasn’t it mostly about getting together in the woods and howling? “Fight Club” was one big discussion of men’s issues and I know it spoke to a lot of guys. Unfortunately, a lot of them didn’t see that it was satire and took the solutions it proposed at face value.

I think there is a general confusion about what it means to be a man and how that relates to the feminist movement. Obviously the male identity of the first half of this century doesn’t fit anymore, but there has also been a backlash against the “sensitive 90s male” (see crap like “The Man Show”) in recent years.
JohnProia
Testicular cancer, inability to have erections during middle age, and hair loss. That sums it up, Mike. laugh.gif
drmarcs
A big male issue I hear of is the rights of the father. They just passed in the court of appeals that a woman can have an abortion even if the father wants to keep the baby.
Also there are a lot of stories in which a divorce happens, say the wife cheats on the man, and ends up getting everything including the kids. Men have now been put down, (thanks to the feminization of America) to the point that all men are unfit to be parents.
Men almost need to fight back, children are EVERYTHING in regards to the future. Other than that I feel men should be leading the charge to get rid of these child pornographers, we are the fathers of the children and the protectors.
Mike
QUOTE(JohnProia @ Aug 13 2002, 11:45 AM)
Testicular cancer, inability to have erections during middle age, and hair loss.  That sums it up, Mike. laugh.gif

See, that's exactly what I thought too!

But Drmarcs does make a good point about Fathers' Rights.

While this certainly would be a sensitive statement over in "Women's Issues", I think it's ok to say here: The government believes that women are the best to raise kids. A horrible mother will usually get the kids over a good father, and that's just not right.

The kids are the victims, and it is an injustice to put them with with the mother just because she is the mother.

In response to Ouroboros post, I do recognize the "Mr. Sensitive" crap, and I personally don't like it. If you want to be sensitive, then be sensitive to your wife.

Don't go on TV and cry, for example, if you accidentally steered your submarine into a sight-seeing boat. Take it (here it comes) "Like A Man". Go cry and mourn all you want in private, but don't broadcast it to the world.
drmarcs
I thought after 9/11 the reemergence of real men was abound. The firefighters and police were appreciated (as long as they are dying and not doing their job, but that’s another story) and our military was looked up to. But it seems that the real men are once again being portrayed macho-insensitive Neanderthals. Which I (for one) am most certainly am not.
JohnProia
Father's rights? Hmm...Good one.
Limpubus
When the parents of a child divorce (whatever the % is now for that) there should equal concentration put onto the character of both parents and most importantly carrying it for 9 months doesn't count.
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