Yes, because that all this is. There are no facts that lead to the actual banning of the bible by Kerry. In fact there are no facts leading in the mailing to indicate that Kerry would ban the Bible. The words 'Kerry will ban the bible if elected' appear no where in the leaflet. It is inferred by a picture.

As BoF has mentioned, "a picture's worth a thousand words." And Silm has questioned about the picture, "What the heck else could this possibly be meant to convey?" Well here are some meanings:

1. 'Banned' was misspelled on the leaflets. They met 'band.' As in 'band together.'

2. Since the Bible is used in religiously wedding ceremony, and the picture appears along side a man proposing to another man, that means that the Bible will no longer be used in man and man marriages.

3. That is a picture of the NIV, so only the NIV will be banned, all other bibles will remain.

4. The Bible is a book of many different storys, from how to eat, to how to wage war, to how to stone people, maybe the ideals are banned.

Just a couple off the top of my head. Not nearly a thousand words yet. Infer what you want by a picture. It doesn't change the fact that this is mere speculation of the future.

But is that not what elections are about? What will this person running do for me over the next four years? Maybe to the Religious, Kerry will ban the bible. May to liberal college student, Bush will start drafting. Who knows, that is what elections are about. What will this person do for you in the future.

Oh and by the way the convertive Christian is not the same as a Republican, it is like saying Greenpeace is a Democrat organization.

Why didn't you add the term "respectively"? That is what you are implying. So, am I the Criminal Catholic or the Cop Catholic? That's the problem with looking at everything from an either/or standpoint: You miss most of humanity.


How many Republican-voting couples are living together or having sex outside of marriage? How many have said that the marriage contract is "just a piece of paper," and that it is unnecessary to stand before a minister to consecrate a union? Geez, that's not "Biblical," either. Do you think the GOP is going to reject votes from these same couples as a matter of priniciple? Or is it just homosexual unions that are being condemned here?

Might I add that there is a large group in the GOP that does not oppose partial birth abortions?

And there are atheists in the GOP who don't give a rat's fanny about "under God" in the pledge. Remember, people, the Pledge of Allegiance existed before that clause--was it pinko or atheistic then?


(It seems to me Kid Rock is pro-Bush, yet he desecrated the Flag at the SuperBowl game by wearing it and then throwing it off himself... )

That is an interesting turn of phrase, "force the worst of Hollywood" on the "rest" of America. (Thanks so much for including the Hollywood crowd among Americans!) But the last time I checked, watching television programs and movies was a voluntary action for Americans; no one is putting a gun to your head to watch this stuff. That these actors and actresses are so starved to be seen as the people they really are that they undertake some stupid stuff (e.g., Britney Spears, who supports Bush, by the way, and her strange little wedding escapades) is really out of bounds when it comes to political campaigns.

As far as Sean Penn, Jeaneane Garofalo, Barbra Streisand et al., they are demonstrating their right to free speech. And they do it with some dignity. Arnold Schwarzeneggar doesn't do that, does he? I figure he's about as "Hollywood" as they come.

I can point out Jeri Ryan's husband, a Republican, who was running ostensibly a campaign for moral values--you know, the GOP patter, until his wife exposed him for wanting her to misbehave at sex clubs...Republican values again.

Now tell me that what I have written above are lies. Does that mean that the GOP is hypocritical, too? You decide.

Damn it, we've got a war going on where over 1,000 of those whom everyone characterizes as our best and brightest have died and for what? A quagmire? And we have a President who says "Stay the course"????????

What about the real issues, people?

EITHER PRESIDENT BUSH SHOULD BE ELECTED ON HIS RECORD OR HE SHOULD NOT. If he is such a great President, why are his campaigners resorting to this kind of CRAP?

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(And as an aside to the Rather thing, yes, the documents were fake. But prove to me

• Bush did not actually know he received special treatment getting into the "Champagne Unit" of the Guard
• Lieutenant Bush was not grounded from flying for misbehavior or neglecting his duty
• Bush actually was serving in Alabama--that he didn't just visit the dentist there
• Bush had several buddies he served with who will come forward and speak for him
• Bush didn't miss his military physical because he was doing drugs (or booze)
• The White House isn't hiding his records for a reason

Where are the lies?)

That is misleading. The Church does not condemned the death penalty it "opposes the death penalty in nearly all cases." They are not the same thing.

And why does it say this? As follows "The Church's commitment to the value and dignity of human life leads us to oppose the use of the death penalty. We believe that a return to the use of the death penalty is further eroding respect for life in our society." Pretty much the same argument against abortion.



Very true. Which goes back to the begin of the thread were I said "What is forgotten is that liberals are for helping the poor, raising children, education, and other such 'social' programs that are ideals held in the bible."



Yes. That is why I said that this is not a good tactic for the RNC.



Well not truly a strong stance compared to his stance against Homosexual Marriages in Canada, Homosexual Priest in the US, Stem Cell Research, Abortion, Communism and many other things.



That is you. Others will differ. That is what makes this world so great. Is that even though you or others may get some leaflet claiming that so and so may do this fear tactic to you and your family, you have the option to say, 'This is silly.'

You should include in your list of people who don't think for you politicians.