Full Version: The Tape is Rolling
QUOTE(ABC News @ Oct. 28, 2004, BRIAN ROSS)
"No, my fellow countrymen you are guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty. You are as guilty as Bush and Cheney. You're as guilty as Rumsfeld and Ashcroft and Powell," he says in what he calls his message to America. "After decades of American tyranny and oppression, now it's your turn to die. Allah willing, the streets of America will run red with blood matching drop for drop the blood of America's victims."
A top goverment source said from Washington that ABC withheld the final 15 minutes of the tape from the feds -- the portion of the tape where the man warns of retribution for Americans electing Bush and Cheney.
The CIA and FBI have authenticated the tape to be from al Qaeda, and ready to debate:
- Did ABC News do the right thing by not releasing the last 15 minutes of the tape?
- Should the last 15 minutes be released to voters to help in their decision?
- Will this change the outcome of the election?
And the typical Election 2004 question:
QUOTE(yehoshua @ Oct 28 2004, 04:22 PM)
The CIA and FBI have authenticated the tape to be from al Qaeda, and ready to debate:
They have? CIA can't authenticate terror tape.
QUOTE
After a technical analysis, the CIA cannot determine whether a videotape obtained by ABC News in Pakistan featuring a man claiming to be affiliated with al Qaeda is authentic, a U.S. intelligence official said Thursday.
"We have been unable to verify the tape's authenticity," the official said.
Portions of the 75-minute tape were aired Thursday evening by ABC News, which said it obtained the tape from a source known to have Taliban and al Qaeda contacts in the tribal regions of Pakistan.
ABC said it paid the source $500 in transportation fees.
A U.S. official said there were "real questions about its authenticity."
"We have been unable to verify the tape's authenticity," the official said.
Portions of the 75-minute tape were aired Thursday evening by ABC News, which said it obtained the tape from a source known to have Taliban and al Qaeda contacts in the tribal regions of Pakistan.
ABC said it paid the source $500 in transportation fees.
A U.S. official said there were "real questions about its authenticity."
Sounds like there are some serious questions about this video in the first place and it looks like the CIA is considering it a hoax right now. If you actually watch the video, the guy doesn't even sound authentic.
1. Did ABC News do the right thing by not releasing the last 15 minutes of the tape?
They shouldn't have even aired it, this was a drudge scoop originally and it wasn't even confirmed.
3. Will this change the outcome of the election?
Nope, because it is likely bogus, and it is too little too late. The story doesn't have legs and the final days of the election will be dominated with two topics:
1. The HMX/RDX Scandal at Al Qaqaa
2. The fact that Haliburton is officially being investigated by the FBI for no bid contracts, over charging for fuel, etc.
The link provided by Yehoshua apparently requires a paid subscription to ABC News' videos. At least that was the message I got. However, portions of the video are available for viewing at Fox News for free. Gotta love those folks at Fox News! 
The local L.A. NBC affiliate interviewed an Orange County muslim leader who believes from watching the tape that it is Danny Gadahn, a muslim convert and former student of his. Danny was identified by the FBI in May as an Al-Qaida member. His identification is based on body language.
NBC4.TV link
NBC4.TV link
QUOTE(Cube Jockey @ Oct 29 2004, 12:39 AM)
3. Will this change the outcome of the election?
Nope, because it is likely bogus, and it is too little too late. The story doesn't have legs and the final days of the election will be dominated with two topics:
1. The HMX/RDX Scandal at Al Qaqaa
2. The fact that Haliburton is officially being investigated by the FBI for no bid contracts, over charging for fuel, etc.
Nope, because it is likely bogus, and it is too little too late. The story doesn't have legs and the final days of the election will be dominated with two topics:
1. The HMX/RDX Scandal at Al Qaqaa
2. The fact that Haliburton is officially being investigated by the FBI for no bid contracts, over charging for fuel, etc.
Good Morning CJ.
The sincere problem with your post is that most people in America are split about the Al Qaqaa scenario, basically down party lines (and of course veterans regardles of party side with Bush on this one).
The other point is that Haliburton has been awarded numerous no-bid contracts by the government, long before the Bush/Cheney administration. You're above this SPIN... You and I both know even the Clinton administration gave them a contract in Bosnia. It seems that Kerry camp is digging feverishly at this point...
QUOTE(aevans176 @ Oct 29 2004, 09:31 AM)
Good Morning CJ.
The sincere problem with your post is that most people in America are split about the Al Qaqaa scenario, basically down party lines (and of course veterans regardles of party side with Bush on this one).
The other point is that Haliburton has been awarded numerous no-bid contracts by the government, long before the Bush/Cheney administration. You're above this SPIN... You and I both know even the Clinton administration gave them a contract in Bosnia. It seems that Kerry camp is digging feverishly at this point...
The sincere problem with your post is that most people in America are split about the Al Qaqaa scenario, basically down party lines (and of course veterans regardles of party side with Bush on this one).
The other point is that Haliburton has been awarded numerous no-bid contracts by the government, long before the Bush/Cheney administration. You're above this SPIN... You and I both know even the Clinton administration gave them a contract in Bosnia. It seems that Kerry camp is digging feverishly at this point...
Morning aevans
On the Al Qaqaa thing, you may have a point because I seriously don't think that anyone is really going to change their positions over it. The point I was trying to make though was that I don't think this Al Qaeda tape will get any traction in the few news cycles before the election because of that.
I also agree with you about Halliburton and I don't specifically blame the Bush administration for that. I think the system is corrupt there as far as awarding government contracts and the Bush administration just happens to be the last one guilty. But again, I see this story getting far more traction in the news than the Al Qaeda thing.
The main thing to keep in mind is that there are only 4 days until the election and two of those are weekend days when most people don't watch the news. This story would have to be pretty darn compelling to break into the headlines in a big way (like the Al Qaqaa thing is currently doing) before the election.
I have said I have serious doubts about the authenticity of the video and apparently the CIA has confirmed that (per my article in a previous post).
So, this one doesn't have legs and it won't matter in the grand scheme of things I think. Just my humble but informed opinion
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