Full Version: Woman in Illinois with 6 DUI's
In Il. a person convicted of 4 DUI's are banned for life to get another license.
But this woman got 3 of the 6 DUI's in Wisconsin where she had a drivers license.
I personally think 3 are too many times you can apply for a license.
Should the states adopt a uniform system for accounting for DUIs/DWIs or should it remain in under the control of individual states?
But this woman got 3 of the 6 DUI's in Wisconsin where she had a drivers license.
QUOTE(Chicago Tribune)
Congressmen who drafted the law in 1998 said the state is misinterperting the law's intent and that the woman should be banned for life from applying for a new license.
Jane Mueller 41 was sentenced to 9 1/2 yrs. in prison last month after she crashed her vehicle last June. Her daughter, who was 11 at the time was permanently disabled in the accident. It was Mueller's third conviction in Il. The first two were in 1988. The 3 in Wisconsin occurred between 1977 and 2001.
Under the Department's interpretation only the convictions with an Il drivers license count toward the lifetime ban.
Jane Mueller 41 was sentenced to 9 1/2 yrs. in prison last month after she crashed her vehicle last June. Her daughter, who was 11 at the time was permanently disabled in the accident. It was Mueller's third conviction in Il. The first two were in 1988. The 3 in Wisconsin occurred between 1977 and 2001.
Under the Department's interpretation only the convictions with an Il drivers license count toward the lifetime ban.
I personally think 3 are too many times you can apply for a license.
Should the states adopt a uniform system for accounting for DUIs/DWIs or should it remain in under the control of individual states?
Edited to help with quote & clarify debate question with permission of momof3
Should the states adopt a uniform system for accounting for DUIs/DWIs or should it remain in under the control of individual states?
The question of state vs federal control comes up. Seeing that there is lot of federal money spent on highways, including the interstate highwy system, I would say this is a federal question.
It would be good if the states adopted uniform blood alcohol levels and records keeping systems and that three (if that's the magic number) combined would be the point of no return whether in Texas or Illinois or elsewhere.
The question of state vs federal control comes up. Seeing that there is lot of federal money spent on highways, including the interstate highwy system, I would say this is a federal question.
It would be good if the states adopted uniform blood alcohol levels and records keeping systems and that three (if that's the magic number) combined would be the point of no return whether in Texas or Illinois or elsewhere.
If a person willingly drives under the influence (illegally) what makes anyone think they will stop driving simply because they have no license?
Punish the offenses. Increase the penalties for repeat DUI's. But revoking licenses simply harms law-abiding people (who may reform) and does nothing to stop the behavior that is already illegal.
Should the states adopt a uniform system for accounting for DUIs/DWIs or should it remain in under the control of individual states?
This is clearly a state issue. There is absolutely no need for some federal bureaucracy to deal with something like this.
Punish the offenses. Increase the penalties for repeat DUI's. But revoking licenses simply harms law-abiding people (who may reform) and does nothing to stop the behavior that is already illegal.
Should the states adopt a uniform system for accounting for DUIs/DWIs or should it remain in under the control of individual states?
This is clearly a state issue. There is absolutely no need for some federal bureaucracy to deal with something like this.
QUOTE(Amlord @ Feb 9 2005, 08:36 AM)
This is clearly a state issue. There is absolutely no need for some federal bureaucracy to deal with something like this.
Amlord,
Traditionally issuance of driver's licenses has been a state function.
My guess is that sooner or later, we'll have a national license, not because of DUIs but issues relating to border security.
This is just a guess, though.
Look,
The entire system is based on false principles. This is not an erroneous statement. Please listen to the evidence. A person`s tolerance is based on a number of factors. Among which past alcoholic consumption is a factor. There ARE people who can drink 4 beers and be sober and there are people who can drink 4 beeers and be drunk. (This is in an hour) The current laws are ridiculous. A normal person can not tell whether they are at .07, .08, or .09 , it`s simply impossible.
If the government really cared about this problem they would make drinking and driving illegal no matter how little one drank. At this point it`s simply a game that makes lawyers rich and innoccent people dead. Nearly every other country on the planet has stricter DUI laws then the US. IT`s a game and that`s it. Not based on evidence or science, but based on dollars. Not being cynical, just realistic.
The entire system is based on false principles. This is not an erroneous statement. Please listen to the evidence. A person`s tolerance is based on a number of factors. Among which past alcoholic consumption is a factor. There ARE people who can drink 4 beers and be sober and there are people who can drink 4 beeers and be drunk. (This is in an hour) The current laws are ridiculous. A normal person can not tell whether they are at .07, .08, or .09 , it`s simply impossible.
If the government really cared about this problem they would make drinking and driving illegal no matter how little one drank. At this point it`s simply a game that makes lawyers rich and innoccent people dead. Nearly every other country on the planet has stricter DUI laws then the US. IT`s a game and that`s it. Not based on evidence or science, but based on dollars. Not being cynical, just realistic.
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