[quote=DaffyGrl,Feb 16 2005, 07:24 AM]
[quote=Kimpossible]But why should everyone who defends NAMBLA's right to exist repeat ad infinitum that they think the group's disgusting?[/quote]
Um, because they are
? I would imagine that even those who defend the organization’s right to exist do so with a bad taste in their mouth. It is easy to think of this in the abstract, but what if one of these “people” (and I use the term loosely) was teaching your
What Im saying is that people who defend it are at risk to of being called child molesters or something equally preposterous, and I find it annoying that they must constantly reassure everyone else that they dont approve of such activities. But to be honest, no, I dont have a bad taste in my mouth for defending NAMBLA. Just like I dont have a bad taste in my mouth defending the KKK.
And I resent your second question. I reminds me of the same sort of "What if your family was brutally murdered?" questions when I say I oppose the death penalty. Just because youre a card carrying member of NAMBLA does not mean youre a child molester. End of story.
[quote]What I find appalling is those who would defend the organization and its goal. Do you really think the age of consent is too high? I found a chart of the age of consent
around the world, and in the US by state, and it ranges anywhere from 12 for girls (Chile, Colombia and other Central American countries, Malta, Netherlands though boys must be 18 in some of these countries) to 20 (Tunisia) for heterosexual sex. There are still plenty of southern US states where the age of consent is 14 to 16. Does anyone really feel that the age of consent needs to be lower than 12
?! I mean, c'mon, they have to say something
in order to remain legal, but would you really want the age of consent lowered to 8 (since this seems to be the age NAMBLA says you need to catch them by)?[/quote][/quote]
I am not going to judge who is sexually mature and who isn't. And obviously, like most people, I think 8 is absurdly low, but I still don't agree with age of consent laws to begin with. It's not up to the law to say who can have sex and at what age, regardless. Sexual abuse can be determined without age of consent laws.
[quote]As far as I know (and I could be wrong) the Anarchist’s Cookbook doesn’t have helpful tips on how to elude the police and secure legal representation when you get caught. It merely describes how to make a bomb; from there I would assume you’re on your own. I’m not a lawyer, but it seems to me NAMBLA can be considered aiding and abetting
criminal activity when one of its members molests a child.
I definately dont agree with literature being printed that informs people how to abuse children safely, but they can print what they want. I read a book by Abbie Hoffman if I remember correctly, it had information on how to avoid getting caught, and steal money from businesses (sadly it was from the 70s, so it wasnt of much use to me). Ive read the Anarchist Cookbook, but it was ages and ages ago, so I can't remember if what kind of info was in there (aside from a recipe about getting high off banana peels). Im also pretty sure there's probably quite a bit of info about how to avoid getting caught, if one were to look for it. It can be published legally, just like the stuff NAMBLA publishes.
[quote]And even though a NAMBLA member may not believe in violating the law, his membership indicates that he doesn't the have moral and psychological makeup that prevents him from molesting children, or that compels him to protect the kids from molestation by others. [/quote]
How does this even make any sense? If you don't believe in violating the law, wouldn't that pretty much mean you have the "right" moral and psychological makeup to uh...not violate the law?